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Old 10-11-2020, 10:43 PM   #16
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oh shit I can't sleep well
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:32 AM   #17
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I sat with family in attorney's office considering a malpractice case but the attorneys said one has to be about dead or lost legs or or or.... the loved one in family only lost her hearing, sudden hearing loss...that's all..
I think you maybe should have tried a different lawyer

Unless what they actually said was that the chances of successfully proving malpractice was low or that the likely compensation award would be too low to warrant their costs - in which case that is a whole other problem and nothing to do with whether or not modern medicine is so beyond saving that we need to seek help from magical memory water or whatever the current thing is

Sorry - that was a tad cranky - this was what I actually wanted to comment on:

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How do I show my work, so to speak????Please tell me...you want me to do a youtube on my life, not gonna happen. That would be a HUGE video, 82 yrs of life.
No - if you make an assertion that 'mainstream' medicine or media are lying about death rates from Covid - that is an extraordinary claim and as such requires proof.

If you make an assertion that X treatment is harmful and Y treatment more effective - then that requires some (appropriate) data to back it up


Nobody is asking for 82 years of life history and experience to corroborate extraordinary claims: because a) that would be ridiculous and b) it would not be sufficient: anecdotal evidence has its place in discussion but in no way stands for evidence.
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Old 10-12-2020, 12:35 PM   #18
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:22 PM   #19
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the thing is, like.... okay, i dont trust doctors, either. but i dont trust doctors because they're people, and people who tend to end up in positions of relative power in their patients lives, and far too many doctors would rather make a buck, or feel powerful, or whatever. not saying every doctor, but we've all known doctors like that.

i also don't trust the pharmacology industry. but i don't trust the pharmacology industry because its an industry, a capitalistic one, out to make a profit. I dont trust them because they're willing to lie to sell their product, at the cost of people's lives. just look at the sacklers.

but that doesnt mean there's some grand conspiracy. It just means that the incentives in our system do not reward honesty. that also doesn't mean its all fake - a lot of this stuff, the actual science, is really damn hard to fake. and it especially doesnt mean that the real answer is to believe some quack who just wants to sell you bleach (or supplements, or iocaine powder, or grapeseed oil, or homeopathics, or) and steal your money.

"there are too many people in the for-profit medical system who have incentives to mislead and mistreat" does not have to mean "so there's some big grand conspiracy to lie to the world about medicine so you should do like me, eschew all health care, and let con artists sell you snake oil".... it means "be careful who you believe, always ask yourself what they're selling, and advocate for a system where your care comes before profit"
Ibby: A voice of smarts and reason....The old docs were the trusted ones, the ones from the 80's on and the medical $$$$$ explosion, forget it.....they are more and more legal drug sellers and pushers....

And I'm talking Grape Seed Extract, the extract from the powerful seed in the grape. Many use oils and I have a little but don't now.....


Grape Seed is used in MANY products today cosmetics, medicines, foods and more....

Actually hope you naysayers don't buy into Grape Seed, we believers don't want to run out.

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Old 10-12-2020, 01:42 PM   #20
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still just snake oil, still just stealing your money. obviously nobody here is going to convince you of that, but that doesn't mean you aren't a mark getting scammed for all you're worth.
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:45 PM   #21
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What Ibby said.
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:50 PM   #22
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oh shit I can't sleep well
Wonder Why? I get a good 8-10 hrs restorative sleep every night.and at a frigging 82. Geeee what can I be doing right...
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:51 PM   #23
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still just snake oil, still just stealing your money. obviously nobody here is going to convince you of that, but that doesn't mean you aren't a mark getting scammed for all you're worth.
Well my dear I hope you make it to the 80's without some dread health issues...
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Old 10-12-2020, 02:00 PM   #24
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But you really don't. Cuz then you'd be right
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