Hot takes on the Democratic frontrunners - Page 19

BigV · 02-07-2020, 10:18 PM

I love this thread Clodfobble.

I have been loathe to engage it however. I just finished watching the debate among the Democratic contenders... I'm exhausted.

Please. God.

Never Trump.

I'll vote for Log before I do anything to perpetuate/facilitate/enable/capitulate to another minute the reign of Trump.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloomberg

God Help Us.

sexobon · 02-08-2020, 06:42 AM

^Even in a thread about Democrats, Trump steals the show.^

It's not just what he does, it's who he is and how he got to be where he is now. Thanks for the perpetuation/facilitation/enabling/capitulation.

Griff · 02-08-2020, 07:19 AM

I'm already done with this election cycle. Pete really wanted to watch last night but finally admitted defeat a few minutes in and watched Nova. At their best politicians can inspire like Kennedy or Reagan. Uplifting is not in the playbook this cycle when we need it the most.

Undertoad · 02-08-2020, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Even in a thread about Democrats, Trump steals the show.

It's a Chinese finger trap where everyone is stuck and they are all pulling as hard as they possibly can.

Pulling has worked every time before, so.

sexobon · 02-08-2020, 08:49 AM

With this group of Dems, their playbook is like a war without a defined goal (other than to displace some individual in power). People are sick of that. They don't want engagements that serve only the political realm. They want a goal that serves the people. Trump said MAGA and gave Americans a goal for everyone. The end trumps the means.

There are certainly better ways of going about it. Dems just aren't astute enough to take advantage of that unifying message by taking it to the next level - MADA (Make America Dignified Again). It's obvious from the current crop of contenders and infighting in the Democratic party that they don't have what it takes to do that anymore than Trump.

Democrats don't have a unifying vision. All they have is political correctness. That drives apathy. The Republican party isn't much better. Trump's eclectic style; however, keeps people engaged. The Dems are failing to put forth a candidate who can commandeer that; so, they're falling by the wayside.

tw · 02-08-2020, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

The end trumps the means.

sexobon · 02-08-2020, 09:25 AM

I put that in there just for you.

Undertoad · 02-08-2020, 09:42 AM

David Frum tweeted

"Most Americans are satisfied with most things in the country except the character of the president.

This is not a time for socialist revolution . It's a time for ethical renewal."

Precisely; but as you say, the left's current idea of ethical renewal is stuck in identity, which is what got T elected the first time, so whaddya gonna do? Both sides need a sea change to get out of the trap.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-08-2020, 11:36 PM

Time for a new party, the Cellar Party, we'll straighten those fuckers out.

Luce · 02-09-2020, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Time for a new party, the Cellar Party, we'll straighten those fuckers out.

You just let me arrange the debates. I'll have this shit fixed proper.

sexobon · 02-09-2020, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Time for a new party, the Cellar Party, we'll straighten those fuckers out.

We'll be known as the type-righter party.
Our opponents will have a monkey on their backs.
We'll send political correctness to Coventry
Our headquarters will be called the User CP!

henry quirk · 02-10-2020, 11:36 AM

Smokin' Joe was supposed to be the guy, but he's diminished, so: no, Joe.

Bernie should be the guy but the Old Guard ain't ready for a full-blown embrace of communism, er, socialism, so: no, Bernie

Petey was supposed to fall away like the rest but, right now, he looks to be the only thing the Dems got, so: go, Petey!

Am I wrong?

Luce · 02-10-2020, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Smokin' Joe was supposed to be the guy, but he's diminished, so: no, Joe.

Bernie should be the guy but the Old Guard ain't ready for a full-blown embrace of communism, er, socialism, so: no, Bernie

Petey was supposed to fall away like the rest but, right now, he looks to be the only thing the Dems got, so: go, Petey!

Am I wrong?

I'm okay with Warren, Sanders, or Buttigieg, in that order. Joe can go home.

Griff · 02-12-2020, 06:58 AM

Yang's out. I don't see a unifier left on the Democrat side, gonna be a bumpy ride. Oh well, back to Independent.

Undertoad · 02-13-2020, 09:18 AM

This guy has listed all the times the media has left Andrew Yang off their coverage and graphics.

Um wow It's kind of a (scroll scroll scroll) very long list

02-08-2020, 07:19 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I'm already done with this election cycle. Pete really wanted to watch last night but finally admitted defeat a few minutes in and watched Nova. At their best politicians can inspire like Kennedy or Reagan. Uplifting is not in the playbook this cycle when we need it the most. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-08-2020, 11:36 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Time for a new party, the Cellar Party, we'll straighten those fuckers out. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-10-2020, 11:36 AM	#12
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	insofar as I've been bothered to pay attention to the Dems, this is my thinkin' Smokin' Joe was supposed to be the guy, but he's diminished, so: no, Joe. Bernie should be the guy but the Old Guard ain't ready for a full-blown embrace of communism, er, socialism, so: no, Bernie Petey was supposed to fall away like the rest but, right now, he looks to be the only thing the Dems got, so: go, Petey! Am I wrong? __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

02-12-2020, 06:58 AM	#14
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Yang's out. I don't see a unifier left on the Democrat side, gonna be a bumpy ride. Oh well, back to Independent. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-08-2020, 06:42 AM	#2
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	^Even in a thread about Democrats, Trump steals the show.^ It's not just what he does, it's who he is and how he got to be where he is now. Thanks for the perpetuation/facilitation/enabling/capitulation.

02-08-2020, 08:49 AM	#5
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	With this group of Dems, their playbook is like a war without a defined goal (other than to displace some individual in power). People are sick of that. They don't want engagements that serve only the political realm. They want a goal that serves the people. Trump said MAGA and gave Americans a goal for everyone. The end trumps the means. There are certainly better ways of going about it. Dems just aren't astute enough to take advantage of that unifying message by taking it to the next level - MADA (Make America Dignified Again). It's obvious from the current crop of contenders and infighting in the Democratic party that they don't have what it takes to do that anymore than Trump. Democrats don't have a unifying vision. All they have is political correctness. That drives apathy. The Republican party isn't much better. Trump's eclectic style; however, keeps people engaged. The Dems are failing to put forth a candidate who can commandeer that; so, they're falling by the wayside.

02-08-2020, 09:25 AM	#7
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	I put that in there just for you.

02-08-2020, 09:42 AM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	David Frum tweeted "Most Americans are satisfied with most things in the country except the character of the president. This is not a time for socialist revolution . It's a time for ethical renewal." Precisely; but as you say, the left's current idea of ethical renewal is stuck in identity, which is what got T elected the first time, so whaddya gonna do? Both sides need a sea change to get out of the trap.

02-13-2020, 09:18 AM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This guy has listed all the times the media has left Andrew Yang off their coverage and graphics. Um wow It's kind of a (scroll scroll scroll) very long list

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