What is pissing you off this time?

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by sexobon

I thought they were arguing with her just so that later they could have make-up sex.

That's why I argue with you.

It's why I argue with my hand.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I just thought the way several people rounded on snake in this particular thread seemed a little unkind.

It was unkind.

[Gravdigr]

I'm pissed off about stuff that pisses me off.

[Undertoad]

Bullying!? I'll make you a deal, if you bullied shawnee out of here, I bullied Snake out...

If you don't like it, don't fucking read it, or put her on ignore

She had the same option with me!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Bullying!? I'll make you a deal, if you bullied shawnee out of here, I bullied Snake out...



She had the same option with me!

Shawnee only received return fire, but she just underestimated my artillery... several times. She should have learned after the first time... or second... or third.

Reading the latest medical research findings, even from just reliable sources, the understanding of how the body works and interacts with shit, changes constantly. But what they are usually doing is further refining what they already know happens, to the whys, wherefores, and exceptions.

In 1800 they knew a heavy weigh dropped on your head would kill you.
In 1900 they knew what happens in your head when it kills you.
In 2000 they know hundreds of electrical, chemical, and physical happening when it kills you.

Someone suffering from long time troubles, even if some are psychosomatic, or they've learned just the rudiments of causation, even if they are wrong about the cause, it still fucking hurts. All the scientific links that say it shouldn't don't help a bit.

I've been through this with my doctor. Fortunately we have great respect for each other which allows for this conversation.
It hurts.
The condition you have shouldn't cause that to hurt.
But it hurts anyway.

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Shawnee only received return fire, but she just underestimated my artillery... several times. She should have learned after the first time... or second... or third.
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I'm sure it helps you to believe that, but you were totally out of line, way beyond anything rational. Trumplike. To say that "'sledgehammer to crack a nut' would be an understatement", would be an understatement.

And the board is poorer for it. I don't even check in every day any more because it's three posters replying to every fucking thread and nothing funny*. which is mostly what I came here for. I suspect I'm not alone in that.

Go ahead, return fire. The only thing I really care about atm is beest and he doesn't come here any more either. same reason.


*except the occasional gem from grav and nob and maybe one other poster

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by onster

I'm sure it helps you to believe that, but you were totally out of line, way beyond anything rational. Trumplike. To say that "'sledgehammer to crack a nut' would be an understatement".

Nut with a sledgehammer? Fuckin A. If I disagreed with her, instead of argueing her position she'd attack me tooth and claw. Nobody gets away with that. I even tried to be tolerant sometimes if it was just a snide remark, but she seldom stopped there. Snowflakes shouldn't play with fire.

And the board is poorer for it. I don't even check in every day any more because it's three posters replying to every fucking thread and nothing funny*. which is mostly what I came here for. I suspect I'm not alone in that.

I had the same problem with you as another poster, it so happened we would be on the board at the same time almost every day. So I was usually the first to post and they took it as picking on them.
So you would rather let the board sit idle because people aren't posting?

Go ahead, return fire. The only thing I really care about atm is beest and he doesn't come here any more either. same reason.

Return fire? I can't return fire until you fire first. All you've done is express your opinion on my interaction with Shawnee, and the way the board has been going. I don't see that as a personal attack on me or anyone. I wish more people would state their opinion rather than slinking away.

*except the occasional gem from grav and nob and maybe one other poster

Just because you're a citizen now that doesn't negate you came from a culture who think Peter Sellers was funny.

[DanaC]

I doubt very much that this is a case of Münchhausen - I suspect it is more a case of inaccurate or outdated diagnoses for a range of complex and overlapping health issues.


Here's the thing though - if someone does have Munchhausen syndrome - then that is real to them. That is, in itself, a problem that person has to deal with.

Everybody's cross weighs heavy for them. The fact somebody else is carrying a bigger cross doesn't change that. That you have friends coping with serious illness does not negate the fact that someone else is stressed by their own shit. And that is what this thread is for.

And as for this:

She had the same option with me!

Bit different - her posts about her illness were not directed at you, they weren't designed to challenge you - they were just someone venting about stuff getting them down.

You find that person's shit irritating and so you launched a challenge.

But here's the thing- if your life has been bounded by illness it is difficult for that not to become a defining part of who you are. You carry it with you. When someone challenges those diagnoses that you were given, rightly or wrongly, it can feel like a very personal attack, because it is effectively an assault on part of your self-identity.

I have experienced that - where i have found myself feeling like I needed to defend my illness and my diagnoses, to justify that part of my self identity when it was under 'attack'.

It serves no purpose whatsoever getting on snake's case- all you've achieved is making her feel shit and like she's under attack - for what gain?

[DanaC]

I'm sure we'll all feel much better once we've got the make-up sex underway.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I'm sure we'll all feel much better once we've got the make-up sex underway.

Extra points for trying.

[DanaC]

Actually, one last quick point then I'm done and we can get busy with more pleasant endeavors...

The purpose of this thread, as I understand it, is to provide a space for people to vent about shit that is pissing them off. When someone is wanting to vent - that is usually, in my experience, the least welcome time for suggestions on how to fix the problem.

Helpful suggestions, or someone try to reframe your issue in a less negative light, or offers of new information that may contradict some of what you are experiencing clashes with the venting frame of mind in a really unhelpful way.

Rather than welcoming the new input, that input feels more like a threat or
attack on the validity of your suffering. That can put your back up, make you feel attacked or dismissed, make you feel combative, and suddenly we're in a confrontation.

The person venting seems to be defending their problems, fighting off any attempt to make things better - so clearly they must want to feel shit - they must want their trouble to continue - which then becomes irritating as fuck to the person listening to them vent, and steadfastly refuse to listen to reason, or take on board helpful suggestions. Which puts their back up. Maybe makes them feel hurt or rebuffed. So they are combative, and now disbelieving of the other person's pain, because clearly they are choosing to hold it tight and protect it.

And now we're having a major fucking row.


I see this happen so often. I've been on both sides of the equation. If someone wants to vent, just let them vent. Chances are, they are not wanting you to fix their problem. Not because they like their problem, but because at that time their intention is to express what has happened/is happening not to seek solutions. When the focus is output, input can be difficult to accept.

[sexobon]

OTOH, sometimes it's not the venting that rubs people the wrong way; but, the perception that it's being sensationalized. Whether intended or not, it can come across that way.

[lumberjim]

3 page tail post removed. I hate when that happens.

It pisses me off, actually

[xoxoxoBruce]

But this is the thread for venting and no member is required reading... except elspode.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

Last edited by lumberjim; 08-02-2017 at 11:38 PM.

Honest to God, I was getting ready to quote your original content just to say "FTW".