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Old 12-22-2018, 09:59 PM   #1
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The audience is never part of the act. Theresa May and Boris Johnson. Britain's favorite comedy team. With a cast of a million - brainwashed Brits. Please try to keep up with the program.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:24 AM   #2
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We must look pretty silly this side of the pond trying to work out what will happen.

But from here, it appears that, right now, that the UK will be saving, and the EU losing, no less than £39,000,000,000 from no-deal Brexit?

That's a tonne of filthy lucre.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:58 AM   #3
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With that kind of money we could forget the wall and dig a Mexican Channel.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:28 AM   #4
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I can't imagine a set of circumstances where the UK won't pay the 39 Billion.
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Old 01-06-2019, 02:20 PM   #5
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Rhianne, don't forget to account for stupid politicians.
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Old 01-06-2019, 03:23 PM   #6
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Yes, and to be fair we do have an awful lot of stupid politicians, but remember that the £39 billion isn't some kind of fee for leaving the EU, instead a fulfillment of signed-for agreements already made. Tory MPs can (and will) posture all they want but lawyers and courts don't often take politicians stupidity into account.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:43 PM   #7
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May is playing possum politics. Do nothing to get something. She is playing cards without even closest advisers knowing what she is holding and what her strategy is. But we can easily speculate. By doing nothing (and because so many other British politicians in all parties are not acting as leaders), then she hopes her plan remains the only plan.

She is counting on nobody standing up for Britain and calling for a new referendum. Based upon inaction by all parties (except the SNP) due to so much dissention, then Britain is stuck with May's bad deal.

Any pound that went to the EU resulted in massively more assets in return. Do to how spread sheets measure, a massive value from being in the EU cannot be measured. That value will be lost starting with and not limited to job losses.

Brexit makes no sense. But Britain has a serious shortage of leadership. So a decision is only being made by emotions - resulting in inaction.

Apparently that is how PM May is playing it. Which explains so much silence about a looming tidal wave called Brexit. Things get quiet just before that wave strikes.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:49 PM   #8
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Well, don't expect yellow vests to start showing up in the UK. Remember, they couldn't even deal with a yellow bikini.

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Old 01-15-2019, 03:11 PM   #9
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Old 01-15-2019, 04:47 PM   #10
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Looks like you're going to quit the EU cold turkey.

If you experience symptoms of withdrawal; remember, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

That or it leaves you a cripple. But then you'd be able to use handicap parking. See, every cloud has a silver lining.

Wear a yellow bikini and protest in the streets. Post a selfie here.
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Old 01-15-2019, 04:48 PM   #11
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At this point, I think that cancelling brexit is more likely.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:03 PM   #12
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If the yellow bikini protests are successful.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:26 PM   #13
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An obviously incompetent Prime Minister was expected to lose a Brexit vote. Nobody expected how dumb those Brexit supporters are. Parliament voted over 2 to 1 against a Brexit deal. Even British citizens, who voted for Brexit, should apologize for being so easily brainwashed by British wacko extremists. A vote against Brexit was widespread across almost all British political parties. Because a majority saw Brexit as a scam.

Notice those (ie Boris Johnson) who most advocated for destruction to the British economy have disappeared - have become scarce.

May would have been smarter to rename herself Elaine and then write comedies. Instead she decided to align herself with Britain's least educated citizens who even promote hate of immigrants. This resulting conclusion was one sided obvious and stated here so many times for how long? Because the stupidity called Brexit was always that obvious.

That vote was suppose to happen on 11 Dec. May delayed it so as to make more deals. Instead, opposition to Brexit increased in all parties. Even many in May's own Conservative party voted against Brexit. Brexit was always that stupid.

Many options exist. But three viable ones are May resigns, Britian hold an emergency referendum on Brexit, or Britain suffer the worst possible penalties by going through with Brexit and suffering major job losses.

Amazing how the people to suffer most from Brexit - the Midlanders - so wanted this. To paraphrase another, "Of course she's a lyin' motherfucker, I didn't hire her to be honest, I hired her to wreck shit."

Wacko extremism is not limited to America.
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:55 PM   #14
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These are the good old days.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:07 AM   #15
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The close relationship between GB and the EU seems to have changed the national character.
Much of that problem is traceable to PM May. Remember, nobody (especially those who wanted to wreck shit by promoting Brexit) wanted the PM job. May was basically a remaining choice. She is rather isolated - does not take outside advise. And is representative of strained relations with the EU.

The Economist describes her:
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Ms May ... could have embraced both sides of the Brexit divide and al parties when deciding how to implement the vote. She could have been up-front with the public about the trade-offs inherent tin Brexit, which always pointed towards messy compromise And she might have discussed options more openly with other EU leaders, knowing they have to agree the terms of any Brexit deal.

Yet she chose to do none of this. Without consulting even her own cabinet she decided in October 2016 to lay down "red lines" for Brexit, which amounted to leaving the single market and customs union, ending the free movement of people and escaping entirely the jurisdiction of European courts.
In short, she decided to make business in Britain more expensive and less competitive.

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Along the way she ignored the advice of experience officials and diplomats, losing her ambassador to the EU. ... Instead she fell back on a coterie of familiar counsellors less knowledgeable about Brussels. She also called an unnecessary election in June 2017, again without consulting colleagues, in which she lost he party's majority, forcing her to rely on support from the DUP, hideously complicating the Brexit negotiations regarding Northern Ireland. And she then conducted the talks largely in secret, not informing her own MPs or even her own Brexit secretary (she is now on her third them) about what she was doing. ...

Yet despite her massive defeat, she refuses to change her red lines, and still believes that something close to her deal is the only one realistically available.
She was never a good PM choice. But Britain' children were told by extremists that Brexit was good Then learned years ago that the Brexit promoters were only seeking political power for self serving gratification. Did not want and were incapable of dealing with the disaster they had created. So May was sucked into the vacuum. Britain has the PM is deserves because so many midlanders were so easily brainwashed by lies.

Only way out is to vote again to reject Brexit. But in politics now flooded in illogical emotions, no leader is willing to call for the only viable alternative. So the British, who have no backbone and who voted for Brexit as children, will suffer less jobs and growth. Already the EU is moving towards other nations and addressing other major and necessary changes. Especially in the East European nations. The Brits will be cut out as if undesirable foreigners. The fundamental strength, that once included Britain, is now concentrating in France and Germany. Because so many British voters were brainwashed by people (ie Boris Johnson) who only wanted to 'wreck shit'.
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