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Old 05-04-2016, 09:50 AM   #1
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Because he feels it untrustworthy, that's why.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:52 AM   #2
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Because he feels it untrustworthy, that's why.
Obviously that is not why. That would be an emotion that only children entertain. If bitcoin is untrustworthy, then a logic reason for why exists. Silly emotions do not say why.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:02 AM   #3
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Trust is both an emotional and logical act. You can't take the emotion out of it.

If something is known to be secure, then you don't need to evaluate the situation, and don't need to decide if it is trustworthy. It's simply secure. Period.

If there is inconclusive evidence that something is secure, then you have to take the given evidence and use your emotions to make a judgement call on its trustworthiness.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:58 AM   #4
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Trust is both an emotional and logical act. You can't take the emotion out of it.

If something is known to be secure, then you don't need to evaluate the situation, and don't need to decide if it is trustworthy. It's simply secure. Period.

If there is inconclusive evidence that something is secure, then you have to take the given evidence and use your emotions to make a judgement call on its trustworthiness.
In all seriousness, I actually feel smarter after reading that. But I will think about it for a while before simply adopting it.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:07 PM   #5
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Because he feels it untrustworthy, that's why.
Exactly. Unregulated. Linked to criminal activity. Way to expensive to buy.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:11 AM   #6
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Exactly. Unregulated. Linked to criminal activity. Way to expensive to buy.
'Feels untrustworthy' is only a silly emotion. Unregulated and linked to criminal activity are logical reasons. First is how adults who are still children make judgments. Latter is what an adult does before preceding to any conclusion.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:49 AM   #7
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No, you are silly. You're ongoing spiel about only children having emotions enter into judgments and decisions is silly. Nobody is buying it, so keep your hand on your wallet, because any human who buys into your fairytale, has an ulterior motive.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:54 AM   #8
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'Feels untrustworthy' is only a silly emotion. Unregulated and linked to criminal activity are logical reasons. First is how adults who are still children make judgments. Latter is what an adult does before preceding to any conclusion.
Do you have a logical reason for being unnecessarily nitpicky right now?

Also, I think the fact that I feel Bitcoin is untrustworthy is perfectly valid, and not silly. Other people can trust it not to screw them over if they want. I'm not going down that road.
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Old 05-05-2016, 10:05 AM   #9
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Do you have a logical reason for being unnecessarily nitpicky right now?
Saddam's WMDs were a perfect example of why nitpicky is actually the difference between an adult and child. Apparently you do not see the chasm that separates emotional feelings from logical facts. Many adults do not.

Stating that "I never trust Bitcoin" is only an emotion. Basically wasted bandwidth. It says nothing useful. Is even how Rush Limbaugh so easily manipulates many to agree with him.

Stating that "Unregulated. Linked to criminal activity." is a major difference. It states a conclusion based in actual facts. We were all taught this concept in junior high science.

I have little respect for people's need to post their emotions. It provides me with nothing useful, helpful, or informative. Those same people also love Trump, Cruz, or Sanders. In each case, those politicians preach emotional fubar. Even their few underlying facts can be outright lies. But that does not matter to the emotional. The emotional want their emotions fed. Those politicians are not preaching to people who need to see actual facts so as to avoid brainwashing.

So many who "knew" Saddam was a threat were easily brainwashed by propaganda techniques that were delineated here back then.

Another good example. Do you plug your computer into a surge protector? Then you are easily scammed by emotion. Show me a fact that says surge protector is surge protection? Most of us are so emotional as to believe that alone is proof.

Difference between emotion and fact is difficult for many who never learned that distinction. Children cannot see that difference. Some adults also do not. It even explains why so many love Trump. It is not nitpicking. It defines a difference between being easily manipulated verses grasping reality.

One could be emotional also about what is posted here. Or one could appreciate an underlying science that says why. That is why all were taught in junior high science how to separate knowledge from emotional beliefs such as spontaneous reproduction.

Trust based in emotion is why so many even gamble in casinos or buy lottery tickets to get rich. Others who think logically do not see entertainment in throwing money away. This example also demonstrates how many are emotional; not logical.

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Old 05-05-2016, 10:47 AM   #10
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I have little respect for people's need to post their emotions. It provides me with nothing useful, helpful, or informative.
I guess that explains why you felt the need to explain the difference between emotion and logic where no such explanation was warranted.

Also, the fact that logic tells my emotions to never trust Bitcoin is valid. I'll stick to PayPal.
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:14 PM   #11
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I guess that explains why you felt the need to explain the difference between emotion and logic where no such explanation was warranted.
Why is it not warranted? Do you have a similar conclusion? That is ambiguous because you did not say why.

Paypal is an amazing innovation.

I never understood why eBay sold Paypal. Apparently something is afoot in that transaction media. But to say what requires facts that are unknown.

Principles that are Bitcoin's foundation are innovative. But unproven. Underlying principles and Bitcoin's future explain a schism among Bitcoin insiders. Another fact that creates less trust in that transaction medium.

It does not help that a Bitcoin is about $440; not good currency for typical transactions that are necessary to build trust. And that a Bitcoin dropped in value from almost $1000 making it more like a derivative - less like a transaction medium.
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