Drinking, Know I Shouldn't... - Page 2

Sundae · 10-30-2009, 06:17 AM

Sigh.
There's a term in common useage here, "The walk of shame" meaning the walk back home in the clothes you went out in the morning after a one night stand.

I don't think there's an equivalent internet term for having to come online and check last nights posts. I think maybe Facing the Music will do. And I have done, and it's not bad thank goodness. But bloody hell, I realise this morning that I have my own thread for when I've got drunk. Bloody hell. That's pretty bad. I'm equally ashamed about the drunkenness and the attention whoring.

But there is a tiny part of me that is impressed I managed to find it each time. Sorry.

limey · 10-31-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

... But bloody hell, I realise this morning that I have my own thread for when I've got drunk. Bloody hell. That's pretty bad. ....

I disagree. I don't think it's bad, at all. You are doing you best to monitor your behaviour, and to have it monitored by a group you trust. We're not going to tell you to believe in a higher power that'll help you through this, but we are your AA group. You tell us how hard you find it, and of your lapses, and we love you and support you and try to help you keep your decision, or return to it.

And secretly, I'm impressed that you can find this thread every time, too!

capnhowdy · 10-30-2009, 07:11 AM

I'll drink to that.

limey · 10-30-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

I'll drink to that.

haggis
and hugs, SG

classicman · 10-30-2009, 08:28 AM

It's also time to reflect on the circumstances that led you to that place again. What is the trigger and how can we help you to help yourself avoid it in the future.

Shawnee123 · 10-30-2009, 08:32 AM

Let's all fly over there real quick-like, kick SG's ass for beating herself up, then fly right back.

SG...every step you learn. No shame allowed.

Sundae · 10-30-2009, 09:17 AM

Catch 22. I hate myself, so I drink.
If I drink, I hate myself.

Plus side - it's nowhere near as regular as it was.
And I admit when it happens.
But Classic's right. And I don't often say that

I was s'posed to go into Relapse Prevention next week.
Guess I'm back to the start.

Identifying Triggers:
Breathing?

classicman · 10-30-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Catch 22.
Identifying Triggers:
Breathing?

Its a start. As one who has already walked this path, I know you need to take whatever you can and build upon it.

TheMercenary · 10-30-2009, 02:21 PM

Cheers.

SamIam · 10-30-2009, 07:28 PM

Do they have AA where you are, SG.? If so, you might want to look into it. You know about doing the same thing and expecting different results. Yes, its insanity. I got on the wagon last May and except for a couple of slips I have stayed sober since then. Best of luck to you.

monster · 10-30-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Do they have AA where you are, SG.? If so, you might want to look into it. You know about doing the same thing and expecting different results. Yes, its insanity. I got on the wagon last May and except for a couple of slips I have stayed sober since then. Best of luck to you.

AA(UK) = AAA(USA) ...different type of wagon

It does exist over there but is very unBritish. Mind you, SG's very cosmopolitan

Sundae · 10-30-2009, 07:42 PM

I've been to three AA (AAA) meetings. Hated them, hated them, hated them. One for each time I went. May have been four. Hated that too.

Just not me, sorry.
Everyone talks about God, and how God saved them, and protected them, and led them to a final denouement. I know the official line is that you don't have to believe in God, but you DO have to believe in a higher power. I tried making that evolution, but when you're listening to a bunch of people talk about the guy with the big white beard ("sometimes they confuse me Santa Claus") and you're thinking of Darwin, it's hard to take it seriously.

I've never read a POV from a successful atheist AAer.
Maybe we're all godless and hopeless.
If there was a similar godless organisation I genuinely would give it a try.
Huh. Smokers don't have this problem! They get patches!

SamIam · 10-30-2009, 08:24 PM

Well, S,G., if you hated, hated, hated it so much for that thought. I'm neither an atheist nor a Bible thumper. When people talk about Santa-God, this turns me off, too. I just find it helpful to spend some time with people who are dealing with the same problem as I am. Hope you come across something that works for you.

ZenGum · 10-31-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

but when you're listening to a bunch of people talk about the guy with the big white beard ("sometimes they confuse me Santa Claus") and you're thinking of Darwin, it's hard to take it seriously.

LMAO. Well, laughed out loud and even applauded. Really.

Sundae ... maybe the Cellar is your higher power. We comfort you in distress, praise your achievements, chastise you when you slip, but forgive you and encourage further effort. And UT has a beard. What more can you ask for?

Be good, and love yourself, 'cause we said so.

skysidhe · 11-01-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

I've been to three AA (AAA) meetings. Hated them, hated them, hated them. One for each time I went. May have been four. Hated that too.

Just not me, sorry.
Everyone talks about God, and how God saved them, and protected them, and led them to a final denouement. I know the official line is that you don't have to believe in God, but you DO have to believe in a higher power. I tried making that evolution, but when you're listening to a bunch of people talk about the guy with the big white beard ("sometimes they confuse me Santa Claus") and you're thinking of Darwin, it's hard to take it seriously.

I've never read a POV from a successful atheist AAer.
Maybe we're all godless and hopeless.
If there was a similar godless organisation I genuinely would give it a try.
Huh. Smokers don't have this problem! They get patches!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

I've been to three AA (AAA) meetings. Hated them, hated them, hated them. One for each time I went. May have been four. Hated that too.

I have never liked support groups either and never have participated and joined them. I refuse to sit around and talk about how hard something is.

To me there is something of a loss of personal power and perhaps that is what you feel? I think there is much to be said being responsible for one's own self and using the brains and will power we were born with.

I always find truth in watching nature. Weeds always come up through the cracks in the pavement. When a tree falls another always grows to replace it. Flowers grow up toward the sky and baby birds without ever being told (?- lol) how will propel themselves from the nest in an attempt to fly. The natural world points to the fact that its energies are geared toward improvement. Even if you believe in Darwin's theory you can see that animals evolve to a better form eventually. Inside you is that very same energy that strives to be better and you will find the tools to accomplish what your heart desires. It just takes time. You just have to want it over and over again until those times in between drinking become greater and greater. You'll keep fighting to progress because it is in natures design that you do. I believe anyone who doesn't just makes a choice not to.

ps. To be fair I do believe in god. Not in the typical way but in the way I described. I've been agnostic. I've been a church goer. Now I am nothing but someone who still finds nature so incredible I have to concede in a higher power but on my own terms. Stop thinking about the bearded men think about the god given power in you. The part of you that makes you a beautiful person.

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

SG...every step you learn. No shame allowed.

I agree with this so much. I think it is at the heart of the matter.

Kick shame's butt. Kill it. Kill the shame.

10-30-2009, 06:17 AM	#1
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Sigh. There's a term in common useage here, "The walk of shame" meaning the walk back home in the clothes you went out in the morning after a one night stand. I don't think there's an equivalent internet term for having to come online and check last nights posts. I think maybe Facing the Music will do. And I have done, and it's not bad thank goodness. But bloody hell, I realise this morning that I have my own thread for when I've got drunk. Bloody hell. That's pretty bad. I'm equally ashamed about the drunkenness and the attention whoring. But there is a tiny part of me that is impressed I managed to find it each time. Sorry. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-30-2009, 07:11 AM	#3
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	I'll drink to that. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

10-30-2009, 08:28 AM	#5
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	It's also time to reflect on the circumstances that led you to that place again. What is the trigger and how can we help you to help yourself avoid it in the future. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-30-2009, 08:32 AM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Let's all fly over there real quick-like, kick SG's ass for beating herself up, then fly right back. SG...every step you learn. No shame allowed. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-30-2009, 09:17 AM	#7
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Catch 22. I hate myself, so I drink. If I drink, I hate myself. Plus side - it's nowhere near as regular as it was. And I admit when it happens. But Classic's right. And I don't often say that I was s'posed to go into Relapse Prevention next week. Guess I'm back to the start. Identifying Triggers: Breathing? __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-30-2009, 02:21 PM	#9
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Cheers. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-30-2009, 07:28 PM	#10
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Do they have AA where you are, SG.? If so, you might want to look into it. You know about doing the same thing and expecting different results. Yes, its insanity. I got on the wagon last May and except for a couple of slips I have stayed sober since then. Best of luck to you.

10-30-2009, 07:42 PM	#12
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I've been to three AA (AAA) meetings. Hated them, hated them, hated them. One for each time I went. May have been four. Hated that too. Just not me, sorry. Everyone talks about God, and how God saved them, and protected them, and led them to a final denouement. I know the official line is that you don't have to believe in God, but you DO have to believe in a higher power. I tried making that evolution, but when you're listening to a bunch of people talk about the guy with the big white beard ("sometimes they confuse me Santa Claus") and you're thinking of Darwin, it's hard to take it seriously. I've never read a POV from a successful atheist AAer. Maybe we're all godless and hopeless. If there was a similar godless organisation I genuinely would give it a try. Huh. Smokers don't have this problem! They get patches! __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-30-2009, 08:24 PM	#13
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Well, S,G., if you hated, hated, hated it so much for that thought. I'm neither an atheist nor a Bible thumper. When people talk about Santa-God, this turns me off, too. I just find it helpful to spend some time with people who are dealing with the same problem as I am. Hope you come across something that works for you.

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