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Old 08-19-2014, 05:11 AM   #1
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What a well written article. Made me want to cry.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:38 AM   #2
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btw, i support the officer. he had this 300 lb kid pounding him and when he tried to take him into custody the guy charged him. fits totally within the accepted use of force continuum.
I don't think either side's version has been vetted properly yet.

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The witnesses said, boy=good, cop=bad. No surprise there. I can see them all wearing warn-a-brother shirts, locked arm in arm, high kicking in unison like the Rockettes. This is the reaction to years of cops covering up mistakes/misbehavior by cops, truth be damned. First allowing, then (probably as part of rationalizing to others & themselves) condoning, finally approving, cops bullying citizens.
Maybe not a civilian/cop issue so much as a black/white issue

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It's part of the polarization of America. Aiding the divide and conquer strategy to retain control of the minions, by the oligarchs. Strategy, is giving them too much credit, though. They do guide and nudge, but the path to division is human nature. There must be an Us and Them, otherwise I wouldn't know who to watch out for, and more importantly I wouldn't have anyone to blame when I fuck up.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:10 AM   #3
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I don't think either side's version has been vetted properly yet.
True words. The cop who shot the kid may end up being the only innocent person in this whole mess... or not. Importantly, he events have finally shined a light on the direction policing is going in this country.

I see Egypt is criticizing our use of force. If Egypt is scoring on you you're running the wrong defense.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:53 AM   #4
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What a well written article. Made me want to cry.
It could also be a nicely written work of fiction. Notice the lack of details as to location or identity of persons involved. Her only photograph is of a vacant sidewalk. No sign of street musicians, etc.

As far as the autopsy, the only released reporting is from the forensic pathologist hired by the family. His assistant was interviewed on CNN and admitted that they didn't know what wounds might have been caused in the car and the autopsy could not refute the officer's account.

supporting the officer is http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...uson-shooting/

In use of force classes I taught for years, we played video tapes illustrating that a person with a knife at a distance of 26 feet could rush and stab an officer before he could draw his weapon. This is info is to illustrate the danger zone for officers.

We had an injured officer facing a man that seconds before had tried to take his gun. If the officer was in legitimate fear of his life (I would have been), he was justified in shooting to stop the threat of a charging much larger assailant.

Don't think Big Mike is such a sweet little lad. Minutes before he had committed a strong armed robbery where he had turned back as leaving the store and advanced again on that victim.

Two sides to a coin. What would you have done if he was charging you with intent to commit another felonious act??
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Old 08-19-2014, 11:38 AM   #5
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It could also be a nicely written work of fiction. Notice the lack of details as to location or identity of persons involved. Her only photograph is of a vacant sidewalk. No sign of street musicians, etc.
We know who wrote it, it's on her webpage, complete with her picture. She said los Angeles, does the street address make a difference?
I doubt she got the name of the street performer, and bet she didn't get the names of the hecklers. Would the name of the man make a difference? Gonna run him through R & I for his rap sheet to see if he ever sat on bench W?

C'mon, you were looking for ants with a magnifying glass, and missed the anthill.
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