Juicer Question?

[fargon]

I am thinking about going to a mostly juice diet after I heal. And I want to know what juicer to get, I don't have $500.00 to spend.
What I am asking, is juicing a good idea, and do any of youze have any experience with a juice diet?
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This is what I am thinking about

[Lola Bunny]

Are you talking about add juicing into your diet or an all out juice diet? Hmm....I don't know how your health is, but I don't think drinking only juice is a great idea. Perhaps eat healthier or "cleaner" as the jargon goes these days and add a "green" juice in the morning. I'm thinking Clodfobble may have informative and more helpful opinions in this matter.

[Undertoad]

The notion that a "juice diet" is somehow beneficial is superstition.

Eat the fruits and vegetables, period... you'll be getting all the fluid out of them, and also the beneficial fiber and nutrition in the part of the plants that is not liquid.

[Lola Bunny]

Get a good blender and blend everything together (seeds excluded) rather than putting fruits and vegetables through a juicer and drink only the liquid extract.

[Clodfobble]

What UT said.

The reason people juice is because you can cram the nutrients from massive amounts of produce into a small space in your stomach. What they forget is, 1.) you are BUYING absurd amounts of produce in order to sustain this, which gets surprisingly expensive, and 2.) vitamins are great, but eliminating the crap in your diet is far more effective. If you just choose to eat all the produce you were going to juice, you'll be saving money, getting all that useful fiber, and still getting the benefits of eliminating all the empty carbs and sugars. Juicing is primarily for people who want a shortcut on vitamins so they don't have to quit any of their bad eating patterns.

[Aliantha]

Or some people just like having their own fresh juice. Another thing juicing is good for is absorbing more raw foods that we normally have cooked or smothered in condiments such as cabbage and beetroot, there are many others in the same boat..

Perhaps for a few days immediately post op, juice only is good beacause your body wont be wasting effort needed for healing on processing large amounts of waste.

[Lola Bunny]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Or some people just like having their own fresh juice. Another thing juicing is good for is absorbing more raw foods that we normally have cooked or smothered in condiments such as cabbage and beetroot, there are many others in the same boat..

That's me. I don't eat fruits and vegetable; I eat very unhealthy. So, what I do is throw in fruits and vegetables, such as kale, spinach, carrots, celery, apples, bananas, cantaloupes, etc, a spoon of flaxseed oil, etc., all in a blender and pulverize them. I don't have one of those extremely good blender where it can pulverize everything into a nice smooth juice. I end up with a smoothie, which is good enough for me and I drink that. For me, it's an acceptable alternative to eating all the greens that I frankly would not happily chow down. Also, it's a way to take care of any fruits and vegetables that are starting to go bad. If I don't take care of them, I would end up throwing them away.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Or some people just like having their own fresh juice. Another thing juicing is good for is absorbing more raw foods that we normally have cooked or smothered in condiments such as cabbage and beetroot, there are many others in the same boat..

Sure, having a glass of fresh-squeezed juice is good, but it's not the same as what people mean by "juicing" over here. A typical juicing recipe will include a full bunch of kale, a whole bundle of celery, 10-12 carrots, a lemon, and maybe one apple or pear for sweetness. That's breakfast, then you maybe do it again for lunch, and dinner too.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Perhaps for a few days immediately post op, juice only is good beacause your body wont be wasting effort needed for healing on processing large amounts of waste.

Liquid is certainly easier to digest than solids, if your concern is giving your body a break rather than supercharging with vitamins. Homemade chicken soup is awesome for this as well.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Lola Bunny

That's me. I don't eat fruits and vegetable; I eat very unhealthy. So, what I do is throw in fruits and vegetables, such as kale, spinach, carrots, celery, apples, bananas, cantaloupes, etc, a spoon of flaxseed oil, etc., all in a blender and pulverize them. I don't have one of those extremely good blender where it can pulverize everything into a nice smooth juice. I end up with a smoothie, which is good enough for me and I drink that. For me, it's an acceptable alternative to eating all the greens that I frankly would not happily chow down. Also, it's a way to take care of any fruits and vegetables that are starting to go bad. If I don't take care of them, I would end up throwing them away.

A smoothie is just as good as eating them whole. With juicing you are literally pulling maybe 1/4 cup of juice from your whole head of kale, and throwing the rest away. Smoothies are the best of both worlds: all of the fiber, but liquefied for easier digestion.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Sure, having a glass of fresh-squeezed juice is good, but it's not the same as what people mean by "juicing" over here. A typical juicing recipe will include a full bunch of kale, a whole bundle of celery, 10-12 carrots, a lemon, and maybe one apple or pear for sweetness. That's breakfast, then you maybe do it again for lunch, and dinner too.



Liquid is certainly easier to digest than solids, if your concern is giving your body a break rather than supercharging with vitamins. Homemade chicken soup is awesome for this as well.

I'm not sure there's a difference in what americans or australians mean by juice. I certainly use all of those things in different variations. Also, some people go to extremes with drinking juice, just like any other diet. What did you think i meant?

Is there something wrong with drinking juice (whatever way you like it)?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Juice doesn't have any lumps, not even tiny ones. What most Americans make/consume, for their own nefarious purposes, is a liquid with lots of little tiny lumps comprised of the fibrous part of the plant.

I suppose they could be further separated by which path they exit the body... ewww.

[footfootfoot]

The Champion Juicer is pretty much the best all around juicer for veggies. Fruits need a different type of juicer and wheat grass or other grasses need (ie work best) another type of juicer, still.

What UT and the other said is pretty much true. Plus, EVERYONE I know who bought a juicer of any type, used it for a few months then never used it again. They're like the Nordic Track of the kitchen.

Bon apetit!

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I'm not sure there's a difference in what americans or australians mean by juice. I certainly use all of those things in different variations. Also, some people go to extremes with drinking juice, just like any other diet. What did you think i meant?

Is there something wrong with drinking juice (whatever way you like it)?

It's a cultural obsession here. To say one is "juicing" almost by definition means the extreme juice dieters. (It can also mean steroid use, but that's different.) There's nothing wrong with drinking juice. But fargon's description of his plan sounded very much like the obsessive fad diet that is common here--not "drinking juice," but "juicing." For most people it's an unsustainable lifestyle.

[Lola Bunny]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

What UT and the other said is pretty much true. Plus, EVERYONE I know who bought a juicer of any type, used it for a few months then never used it again. They're like the Nordic Track of the kitchen.

Bon apetit!

Guilty as charged! What I wish I have instead is a very, very good blender.

[Lola Bunny]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Is there something wrong with drinking juice (whatever way you like it)?

I have the same impression as Clod does. I'm thinking that Fargon means juice diet as in all he'll consume is juice