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Old 06-13-2011, 04:43 PM   #1
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What's right? What's left? What's liberal? What's conservative? I'm happy to say I don't know. And that's no accident. I have purposely avoided left/right/liberal/conservative labels all my thinking life.

I am going to make a few statements on my thoughts and beliefs. Please comment on whether the statement leans left or right. Liberal or conservative. And label the group of statements, as a whole, left/right/liberal/conservative.

I will not go off on anybody, argue, tell you you're stupid or any of that shit. I promise.

Now, you guys, y'all can argue all ya want.

1. I think G.W. Bush was not the greatest president he might have been, but, I thank God that Al Gore was not our president on Sept. 11. I think we would have had thousands more dead Americans by now if he had been.

2. I think all high school grads/eighteen-year-olds should do a mandatory two year turn in the military.

3. I think marijuana should as legal as cigarettes/booze.

4. While a friendly regime is always preferable, I don't think who is in charge of {insert Middle-East country here} is really any of our business.

5. I think if you're a country, and you got the minds to produce nuclear weapons, or nuclear energy, the rest of the world should either bomb you out of existence, or STFU.

6. I don't think it matters who the President is, or what color, for that matter. The office of the POTUS is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the group of CEOs and board chairmen that actually run this country. (I know this contradicts statement #1, sue me.)

7. I'm not sure there is a God. I'm not sure there's not a God. But, I do believe more people have been killed over religion than by all the diseases and accidents in history.

8. I don't think having a felony conviction should prevent you from working anywhere but a bank, or a school.

9. I know there are situations, but, I am not a fan of bankruptcy.

10. I think the plaintiffs in stupid 'hot-coffee-in-my-lap'-type lawsuits should have to give half of their award to charity.

11. I think guns are cool.

12. I think the tax rate ought to be 30% flat rate across the board for every man woman and company, no matter how big.

13. I think we should only import items/goods into this country if no one here makes it.

14. I think if you're a company that exports goods to the US, you should have to have a factory(s) here.

15. I think this is as good a place as any to STFU.

So, am I right? Left? Liberal? Conservative? Need more info, just ask.

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Old 06-13-2011, 05:00 PM   #2
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So, am I right? Left? Liberal? Conservative?
Yes
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:34 PM   #3
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Someone who doesn't need an ideology. That's the way to go.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:47 PM   #4
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:02 PM   #5
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:33 AM   #6
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1. I think G.W. Bush was not the greatest president he might have been, but, I thank God that Al Gore was not our president on Sept. 11. I think we would have had thousands more dead Americans by now if he had been.
Conservative. You have an opinion that cannot be proved either way, but since you believe a repubican would have done better, I would call that a conservative opinion.

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2. I think all high school grads/eighteen-year-olds should do a mandatory two year turn in the military.
Liberal.

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3. I think marijuana should as legal as cigarettes/booze.
Liberal.

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4. While a friendly regime is always preferable, I don't think who is in charge of {insert Middle-East country here} is really any of our business.
Liberal.

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5. I think if you're a country, and you got the minds to produce nuclear weapons, or nuclear energy, the rest of the world should either bomb you out of existence, or STFU.
Conservative.

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6. I don't think it matters who the President is, or what color, for that matter. The office of the POTUS is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the group of CEOs and board chairmen that actually run this country. (I know this contradicts statement #1, sue me.)
Conservative.

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7. I'm not sure there is a God. I'm not sure there's not a God. But, I do believe more people have been killed over religion than by all the diseases and accidents in history.
Liberal.

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8. I don't think having a felony conviction should prevent you from working anywhere but a bank, or a school.
Liberal.

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9. I know there are situations, but, I am not a fan of bankruptcy.
Conservative.

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10. I think the plaintiffs in stupid 'hot-coffee-in-my-lap'-type lawsuits should have to give half of their award to charity.
Thinking that some lawsuits are stupid or frivolous = conservative. Giving to charity = Liberal.

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11. I think guns are cool.
Gay : conservative

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12. I think the tax rate ought to be 30% flat rate across the board for every man woman and company, no matter how big.
30%=Liberal. Flat tax=conservative.

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13. I think we should only import items/goods into this country if no one here makes it.
Liberal.

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14. I think if you're a company that exports goods to the US, you should have to have a factory(s) here.
Liberal.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:42 AM   #7
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Compulsory military service is a 'liberal' view??
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:03 AM   #8
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Compulsory military service is a 'liberal' view??
Oops! In my mind, I thought "service", like Peace Corp. I'm not sure that compulsory military service is a conservative view, either. That's a tricky one.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:08 AM   #9
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Compulsory military service is a 'liberal' view??
Yes, because it is the slightly sluttier sister of free healthcare for all citizens.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:09 AM   #10
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My dad used to say "A liberal is only a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet."

For what it's worth.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:15 AM   #11
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My dad used to say "A liberal is only a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet."

For what it's worth.
My dad used to say "a conservative is only a liberal who hasn't been persecuted for not being christian, falsely detained and tortured, and kept in the underclass yet."
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:16 AM   #12
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My dad used to say "a conservative is only a liberal who hasn't been persecuted for not being christian, falsely detained and tortured, and kept in the underclass yet."
"And forced to bear a child that she didn't want, and prohibited from marrying anyone (s)he wants"
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:41 AM   #13
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Thinking that some lawsuits are stupid or frivolous = conservative. Giving to charity = Liberal.


Most of what I've experienced has been contrary to that. I did a quick Google and found a few links which all seemed to say the same thing -
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-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.
Although the stats are from a few years ago, I would say they are probably still relatively accurate. Its about an even split with conservatives getting a slight edge.
I've been volunteering for a long time now and most of the people are not what I expected. I was surprised to find such a mix of young/old, wealthy/average, male/female... there were far more religious than not, but that is because they come as groups from their churches and (I think) skews the numbers.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:45 AM   #14
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Gravdigr - I'd say your pretty much in the middle of things.
Did you try taking the Political Compass quiz
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:54 AM   #15
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The religious aspect probably skews the liberal-conservative ratio as well.
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