We are in even more trouble now

yesman065 · 12-12-2006, 01:11 PM

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/po...nce-chief.html

How the Heck can this guy be appointed to the House intelligence chief position and NOT know this???? How the hell can any senator/congressman not know this?? This is truly frightening.

Flint · 12-12-2006, 01:15 PM

Have you ever worked for someone who has never done your job, nor really knows anything about it, but were hired for "management" experience?

xoxoxoBruce · 12-13-2006, 04:52 AM

Flint hit the nail square on the head...... it's corporate thinking.
Who do they want running the show? MBAs.
Doesn't matter if the business is making widgets, handling information, hardware, software or high tech toys. You know that professional manager doesn't know jack-shit about what his people are doing, only if they are meeting deadlines and being cooperative/not disruptive. Of course he set the deadlines, and he's no help if you get stuck, but that's your problem... not his.

On the upside, Reyes not knowing the answers to the questions may be a good thing. Maybe instead of taking the position with preconceived notions, he'll use the power of the position to find out the truth.

Naw.

yesman065 · 12-13-2006, 07:09 AM

I can relate to your "fresh-thinking" perspective, but it would be nice to know what or who the problem is. The fact that he couldn't distinguish between "Shiite" and "Sunni" is unconscionable.

Griff · 12-13-2006, 07:12 AM

He'll be very easy to control by whoever gets in the saddle. He knows nothing so he'll believe whatever he is fed.

yesman065 · 12-13-2006, 07:14 AM

Isn't that the situation many here say we are in now? Why would we want to do it again? Oh, thats right - - - -> politics as usual.

Stormieweather · 12-13-2006, 07:57 AM

What bothers me most is not that he didn't know this information (even the most intelligent people don't know everything), but that he actually answered with a guess rather than admit he didn't know. It's ok to not know something, but the peak of stupidity to answer as though you do know (erroneously, as it turns out) and prove you're an idiot.

Stormie

Spexxvet · 12-13-2006, 08:02 AM

Didn't W fail the same sort of test, and then got elected president? Hopefully the results will not be the same... maybe he's a quick study.

chrisinhouston · 12-13-2006, 08:04 AM

What troubles me is that Pelosi picked him over 2 more senior Democrats who have much more experience because she doesn't get along with them. She also made that dumb move by supporting Murtha when he had all that baggage.

MESSAGE TO CONGRESS: WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS!!!

Torrere · 12-13-2006, 10:03 AM

Well, they appended an update to the article, where Sen. Reyes clarifies that he does know what's going on. He is "acutely aware of Al Qaeda's desire to harm Americans." He sounds so much more smart and knowledgeable when he uses words like "acutely".

In the original article in Congressional Quarterly, it's clear that he not only has trouble distinguishing Shia from Sunni (which might be excusable for the average American), but also that he has no idea what Hezbollah is.

Also, it seems that Trent Lott hit the nail on the head:
“Why do they kill people of other religions because of religion?”

skysidhe · 12-13-2006, 10:11 AM

I saw this on the Today show the other day.

It brought up the memory of Kerry saying we needed sensitivity training regarding the middle east yet was snickered at.

When will we ever learn?

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MaggieL · 12-13-2006, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe

It brought up the memory of Kerry saying we needed sensitivity training regarding the middle east yet was snickered at.

Of many things Kerry has said, that's probably among the most snicker-worthy.

skysidhe · 12-13-2006, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Of many things Kerry has said, that's probably among the most snicker-worthy.

What does that word mean to you? When someone says that sensitivity training in is order what do you hear? Just curious. I know the Rebublican mind translates things differently. Oh and sensitivity might not mean to me what you think it does.

yesman065 · 12-13-2006, 12:08 PM

The more I read about Pelosi, the more worried I get. I am ok with change as long as it produces a more beneficial leadership - however this is beginning to look like a step backward.

Sensitivity - in this context, to me means a better understanding of what the other culture believes, feels wants. . . and a better comprehension of how to relay the same information from us in a way they will understand, without it coming across as US telling THEM.

We already tried that and it hasn't worked out so well yet.

MaggieL · 12-13-2006, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe

What does that word mean to you? When someone says that sensitivity training in is order what do you hear? Just curious. I know the Rebublican mind translates things differently. Oh and sensitivity might not mean to me what you think it does.

OK...let's start off with "I'm not a Republican." (Or a rebublican.)

Now, with that out of the way...

What does "sensitivity training" mean to me? It means somebody has decided somebody else is insufficiently politically correct, and is in a position to try to impose their own values and point-of-view, while whitewashing it as pedagogy.

12-12-2006, 01:11 PM	#1
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	We are in even more trouble now http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/po...nce-chief.html How the Heck can this guy be appointed to the House intelligence chief position and NOT know this???? How the hell can any senator/congressman not know this?? This is truly frightening.

12-12-2006, 01:15 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	sounds familiar... Have you ever worked for someone who has never done your job, nor really knows anything about it, but were hired for "management" experience? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

12-13-2006, 04:52 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Flint hit the nail square on the head...... it's corporate thinking. Who do they want running the show? MBAs. Doesn't matter if the business is making widgets, handling information, hardware, software or high tech toys. You know that professional manager doesn't know jack-shit about what his people are doing, only if they are meeting deadlines and being cooperative/not disruptive. Of course he set the deadlines, and he's no help if you get stuck, but that's your problem... not his. On the upside, Reyes not knowing the answers to the questions may be a good thing. Maybe instead of taking the position with preconceived notions, he'll use the power of the position to find out the truth. Naw. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-13-2006, 07:57 AM	#7
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	What bothers me most is not that he didn't know this information (even the most intelligent people don't know everything), but that he actually answered with a guess rather than admit he didn't know. It's ok to not know something, but the peak of stupidity to answer as though you do know (erroneously, as it turns out) and prove you're an idiot. Stormie __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

12-13-2006, 08:02 AM	#8
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Didn't W fail the same sort of test, and then got elected president? Hopefully the results will not be the same... maybe he's a quick study. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

12-13-2006, 07:09 AM	#4
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	I can relate to your "fresh-thinking" perspective, but it would be nice to know what or who the problem is. The fact that he couldn't distinguish between "Shiite" and "Sunni" is unconscionable.

12-13-2006, 07:12 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	He'll be very easy to control by whoever gets in the saddle. He knows nothing so he'll believe whatever he is fed.

12-13-2006, 07:14 AM	#6
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Isn't that the situation many here say we are in now? Why would we want to do it again? Oh, thats right - - - -> politics as usual.

12-13-2006, 08:04 AM	#9
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	What troubles me is that Pelosi picked him over 2 more senior Democrats who have much more experience because she doesn't get along with them. She also made that dumb move by supporting Murtha when he had all that baggage. MESSAGE TO CONGRESS: WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS!!!

12-13-2006, 10:03 AM	#10
Torrere a real smartass Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,121	Well, they appended an update to the article, where Sen. Reyes clarifies that he does know what's going on. He is "acutely aware of Al Qaeda's desire to harm Americans." He sounds so much more smart and knowledgeable when he uses words like "acutely". In the original article in Congressional Quarterly, it's clear that he not only has trouble distinguishing Shia from Sunni (which might be excusable for the average American), but also that he has no idea what Hezbollah is. Also, it seems that Trent Lott hit the nail on the head: “Why do they kill people of other religions because of religion?”

12-13-2006, 10:11 AM	#11
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	I saw this on the Today show the other day. It brought up the memory of Kerry saying we needed sensitivity training regarding the middle east yet was snickered at. When will we ever learn?:

12-13-2006, 12:08 PM	#14
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	The more I read about Pelosi, the more worried I get. I am ok with change as long as it produces a more beneficial leadership - however this is beginning to look like a step backward. Sensitivity - in this context, to me means a better understanding of what the other culture believes, feels wants. . . and a better comprehension of how to relay the same information from us in a way they will understand, without it coming across as US telling THEM. We already tried that and it hasn't worked out so well yet.

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