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Old 07-08-2009, 11:47 AM   #1
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Arctic ice thinned dramatically since 2004 - NASA

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Old 07-08-2009, 11:52 AM   #2
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Well, sure, if you believe the tie-dyed liberal claptrap that comes out of Reuters.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:55 AM   #3
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Sea level rise: It's worse than we thought
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:59 PM   #4
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Antarctic ice thickened for two decades - NASA
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:42 PM   #5
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That's the answer then. It's all slipping to the bottom.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:42 PM   #6
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So, the planet needs a facelift?
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:33 PM   #7
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So, the planet needs a facelift?
Well, she's not getting any younger.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:51 AM   #8
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From dar's link;
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The research team blamed these changes on recent warming and anomalies in sea ice circulation.
From UT's link;
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"You can see with this dataset that what is happening in the Antarctic is not what would be expected from a straightforward global warming scenario, but a much more complicated set of events," Parkinson said.
They're still guessing.
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Old 07-11-2009, 01:12 PM   #9
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It doesn't matter what the facts are, the man made global warming crowd are going to blame it all on greedy republican capitalists.
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:58 PM   #10
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From the Washington Post of 9 Jul 2009:
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When it comes to climate change, the teaching of evolution and the state of the nation’s research enterprise, there is a large gap between what scientists think and the views of ordinary Americans, a new survey has found. ...

According to the survey, about a third of Americans think there is lively scientific debate on both topics; in fact, there is no credible scientific challenge to the theory of evolution and there is little doubt that human activity is altering the chemistry of the atmosphere in ways that threaten global climate.
When I read posts based in a political agenda, I am reminded of the same thinking process that *proved* Saddam had WMDs. Even when numbers exposed those claims as unfounded, some still knew WMDs must exist. Even when the numbers bluntly demonstrate man-made global warming exists, these same *experts* deny it.

From a recent survey by the American Association for the Advancement of Science:
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near consensus among scientists about global warming is not mirrored in the general public. While 84% of scientists say the earth is getting warmer because of human activity such as burning fossil fuels, just 49% of the public agrees.
The survey even says why. 85% of scientists say "Public does not know very much about science". 76% say "News does not distinguish between well-founded findings and those are not."

No doubt that mankind has created global warming. The *smoking gun* evidence that decimated any opposition among scientist was published a few years ago. The controversy is only about how the numbers – how much. And still those who parrot a political agenda will deny science.

If he knew, he posted numbers. No numbers says exactly where his information comes from. Exact same source that proved those WMDs - also without numbers.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:20 PM   #11
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Consensus among scientists is not science. Scientific method is. I have seen no proof of any of the veracity of the man made global warming, despite what the Al Gore Bible thumpers all agree on.
Oh, and that goes for evolution also. No scientific method, just egg head consensus. Show me duplicatable evidence.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:34 PM   #12
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I just read an article in the Philly paper about an Italian Doctor that runs a $20 million a year cancer research center at I think it was Ohio State.

He (they) just made some amazing breakthroughs after 20 years of beating their heads against the wall, because they accepted what was common knowledge, know fact, about DNA structure and function in the medical research field.

Well, those known facts were wrong, even though the entire medical research Field accepted them by consensus. He pointed out most of them would get little research money if they didn't agree with the consensus.
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