Conflated

Griff · 06-11-2005, 07:23 AM

con·flate
tr.v. con·flat·ed, con·flat·ing, con·flates
To bring together; meld or fuse: “The problems [with the biopic] include... dates moved around, lovers deleted, many characters conflated into one” (Ty Burr).
To combine (two variant texts, for example) into one whole.

Somewhere along the way folks were talking about whether or not GWB and his unindicted co-conspirators "conflated" 911 and the Iraq War. In my view, the administration generally stayed away from specifically linking the two events, however, they worked very hard to create a culture of fear in this country rooted in 911. This allowed for the impression that the President's first priority was the safety of the American people therefor Iraq had to have something to do with addressing our security. That is conflation. Two narratives became one with media hacks doing the dirty work, while the administration remained silent or at most unenthusiastically denied a connection. I can see however that if someone mistakenly believed invading a Arab country would make Americans safer, they could separate those things... maybe?

Troubleshooter · 06-12-2005, 03:42 PM

Americans, taken as a whole, are pretty dim. It doesn't take much to confuse them.The unique thing about Americans is that they will fight tooth and nail for what they believe in. Over time, the ability to convince people of what they should believe in has grown, and in recent times, grown rather large.

You have to wonder just how much effort was necessary to for this conflation to be brought about.

richlevy · 06-12-2005, 10:31 PM

The adminstration is still referring to the Iraq war as 'The War on Terror'. Cheyney was still keeping the concept alive in the fall of 2003.

Now that our invasion has mustered every militant in the Middle East into Iraq past borders more porous than the US-Mexican border, the Iraq-terror link has become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Troubleshooter · 06-13-2005, 07:51 AM

That's the beauty of it.

A little conflation of the information turns into an inflation of the situation.

headsplice · 06-13-2005, 09:03 AM

Unfortunately, the inflamation of the situation turned into conflagration.

wolf · 06-13-2005, 11:28 AM

I think there's a cream for that.

Troubleshooter · 06-13-2005, 02:57 PM

Preperation H?

Or would that Preperation R?

warch · 06-13-2005, 05:00 PM

Tea tree oil and a cup of plain yogurt.

Queen of the Ryche · 06-13-2005, 06:00 PM

and a beer bath

Griff · 06-13-2005, 06:15 PM

and a right proper sounding

busterb · 06-13-2005, 08:44 PM

How about this? "comity." http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...9/1200/OPINION

06-11-2005, 07:23 AM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Conflated con·flate tr.v. con·flat·ed, con·flat·ing, con·flates To bring together; meld or fuse: “The problems [with the biopic] include... dates moved around, lovers deleted, many characters conflated into one” (Ty Burr). To combine (two variant texts, for example) into one whole. Somewhere along the way folks were talking about whether or not GWB and his unindicted co-conspirators "conflated" 911 and the Iraq War. In my view, the administration generally stayed away from specifically linking the two events, however, they worked very hard to create a culture of fear in this country rooted in 911. This allowed for the impression that the President's first priority was the safety of the American people therefor Iraq had to have something to do with addressing our security. That is conflation. Two narratives became one with media hacks doing the dirty work, while the administration remained silent or at most unenthusiastically denied a connection. I can see however that if someone mistakenly believed invading a Arab country would make Americans safer, they could separate those things... maybe? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-12-2005, 03:42 PM	#2
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Americans, taken as a whole, are pretty dim. It doesn't take much to confuse them.The unique thing about Americans is that they will fight tooth and nail for what they believe in. Over time, the ability to convince people of what they should believe in has grown, and in recent times, grown rather large. You have to wonder just how much effort was necessary to for this conflation to be brought about. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

06-12-2005, 10:31 PM	#3
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	The adminstration is still referring to the Iraq war as 'The War on Terror'. Cheyney was still keeping the concept alive in the fall of 2003. Now that our invasion has mustered every militant in the Middle East into Iraq past borders more porous than the US-Mexican border, the Iraq-terror link has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

06-13-2005, 07:51 AM	#4
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	That's the beauty of it. A little conflation of the information turns into an inflation of the situation. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

06-13-2005, 09:03 AM	#5
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	Unfortunately, the inflamation of the situation turned into conflagration. __________________ Don't Panic

06-13-2005, 11:28 AM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think there's a cream for that. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-13-2005, 02:57 PM	#7
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Preperation H? Or would that Preperation R? __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

06-13-2005, 05:00 PM	#8
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Tea tree oil and a cup of plain yogurt.

06-13-2005, 06:00 PM	#9
Queen of the Ryche is fleeing the scene Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Beautiful CO Posts: 1,510	and a beer bath __________________ Once, in an interview, Chuck Norris admitted that he was not the most awesome thing ever. He declined to elaborate; but I believe we all know that he was referring to the existence of chocolate covered bacon. I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

06-13-2005, 06:15 PM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	and a right proper sounding __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-13-2005, 08:44 PM	#11
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	How about this? "comity." http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...9/1200/OPINION __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch. Last edited by busterb; 06-13-2005 at 08:45 PM. Reason: add

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