Frineds, Family and Love!

JBKlyde · 06-08-2010, 04:41 PM

This is the catch phrase I am speaking into existence and really I have no Idea how to achieve it. When I was a kid I used to get scared at night and then I would just think to myself "Ice Cream, Cake and Pie." When I was 15, I got a job at a cookie store baking and selling "Ice cream Cake and Pie". So I am trying to speak into existence a new life for myself. "Friends, Family and Love." And God is Love. I'm tired of trying to be something I'm Not. AKA. Digital Artist Extraordinaire. If the Foundation has a crack in it the whole building is a failure. So I'm starting over "again" this time the crack is in the liberty bell. And We all know It cracked the first time it rang so bear with cause I got some ladies on this boat that might what to make a statement.

BigV · 06-08-2010, 05:42 PM

You're kind of hard to follow.

I think you're saying you want Friends and Family and Love. Reasonable, certainly. "Speaking it into existence"? Perhaps to begin with, but you will soon find that much more is needed that just speaking.

I don't agree with your assessment that a crack in the foundation means the whole building is a failure. If this is your mindset for friends and family and love, you're in for a *lot* of disappointment. Unless the crowd you hang out with is a damn sight more perfect than the mine.

Cloud · 06-08-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

You're kind of hard to follow.

+1

JBKlyde · 06-08-2010, 09:20 PM

I'm just saying that a building or any philosophical way of understanding that has a poorly laid foundation will eventually be a loss. I assume. Yes of coarse no one is perfect but Gods Voice, if you can hear it, will tell you how perfect his will really is. If God is perfect and He is and we were made in his likeness then we should strive to be perfect as he is perfect.

BigV · 06-09-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

I'm just saying that a building or any philosophical way of understanding that has a poorly laid foundation will eventually be a loss. I assume. Yes of coarse no one is perfect but Gods Voice, if you can hear it, will tell you how perfect his will really is. If God is perfect and He is and we were made in his likeness then we should strive to be perfect as he is perfect.

Respectfully, I disagree. Leaving aside the question about God and his voice for a moment, I believe striving to be perfect is a bad idea. Here's why.

You practically make my point when you say we're not perfect, I certainly agree with that. But what's worse is that no amount of striving will ever result in perfection. And when you strive and still don't reach your goal of perfection, what is that called? It's called Failure. Why, or even how, could I sustain a lifetime of effort that *will* *not* *succeed*? I can't. Striving is hard, look it up. The fuel for that effort can not be continuous failure. I won't make it. Not only will I not become perfect, I'm likely to stop striving. Not good.

I think a far better goal is improvement. It is in the same direction as perfection, and is achievable. Repeatedly achievable. I can strive, and succeed every day. Certainly this goal can be trivialized into meaningless. The success of this endeavor is generally proportional to the effort invested into it. If I work hard at self improvement, I'll probably get good results. If I work hard at being perfect, I won't be perfect, *and* I'm a "failure".

Furthermore, looking for this same paradigm in those around me, my friends and family, presents the same peril. I'm guaranteed to be disappointed if I'm expecting perfection in others. How unfair. And I myself don't want to be held to that standard or be a source of continual disappointment to my loved ones.

Kaizen, not perfection.

lumberjim · 06-08-2010, 10:07 PM

god is a bullet in your crazy gun

a true frined told me that

HungLikeJesus · 06-08-2010, 10:26 PM

lumberjim always tells it straight.

His words are like a zen koan.

Shawnee123 · 06-09-2010, 07:33 AM

I'm in trouble. I'm so far from prefect I can't even spell it.

dmg1969 · 06-09-2010, 11:36 AM

HungLikeJesus · 06-09-2010, 12:04 PM

Oh no, he's got an arm off!

wanderer · 06-09-2010, 01:06 PM

........so lets eat bunny and the cookie!!

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If God is perfect and He is and we were made in his likeness then we should strive to be perfect as he is perfect.

.......some one made devil too. I suppose he should have been modeled in God's likeness too, until God is a racist that is

JBKlyde · 06-09-2010, 04:24 PM

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I'm in trouble. I'm so far from prefect I can't even spell it.

I think that the most amazing thing about God is that he takes whats NOT perfect and perfects it, if you are a true believer one of the first things you should notice, About the God of Creation, is that where you fall short he picks up. Only "SIN" can stop God from reaching you and once your saved your forgiven of sin and God becomes the JOY of your life.

BigV · 06-09-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

I think that the most amazing thing about God is that he takes whats NOT perfect and perfects it, if you are a true believer one of the first things you should notice, About the God of Creation, is that where you fall short he picks up. Only "SIN" can stop God from reaching you and once your saved your forgiven of sin and God becomes the JOY of your life.

Please explain how you distinguish the difference between "falling short" and having God pick me up and "SIN" that stops God (!) from reaching me.

Perhaps in another post you can help me understand being saved and the resulting consequences and obligations for me regarding sin. But first things first please.

DanaC · 06-10-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

I think that the most amazing thing about God is that he takes whats NOT perfect and perfects it, if you are a true believer one of the first things you should notice, About the God of Creation, is that where you fall short he picks up. Only "SIN" can stop God from reaching you and once your saved your forgiven of sin and God becomes the JOY of your life.

If he made us in his image, and he is perfect, then how is that there is imperfection in us for him to perfect. How is it that we, who are created in his image are 'NOT perfect'?

Pie · 06-09-2010, 04:39 PM

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06-08-2010, 04:41 PM	#1
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	Frineds, Family and Love! This is the catch phrase I am speaking into existence and really I have no Idea how to achieve it. When I was a kid I used to get scared at night and then I would just think to myself "Ice Cream, Cake and Pie." When I was 15, I got a job at a cookie store baking and selling "Ice cream Cake and Pie". So I am trying to speak into existence a new life for myself. "Friends, Family and Love." And God is Love. I'm tired of trying to be something I'm Not. AKA. Digital Artist Extraordinaire. If the Foundation has a crack in it the whole building is a failure. So I'm starting over "again" this time the crack is in the liberty bell. And We all know It cracked the first time it rang so bear with cause I got some ladies on this boat that might what to make a statement.

06-08-2010, 05:42 PM	#2
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	You're kind of hard to follow. I think you're saying you want Friends and Family and Love. Reasonable, certainly. "Speaking it into existence"? Perhaps to begin with, but you will soon find that much more is needed that just speaking. I don't agree with your assessment that a crack in the foundation means the whole building is a failure. If this is your mindset for friends and family and love, you're in for a lot of disappointment. Unless the crowd you hang out with is a damn sight more perfect than the mine. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

06-08-2010, 10:07 PM	#6
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	god is a bullet in your crazy gun a true frined told me that __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-08-2010, 10:26 PM	#7
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	lumberjim always tells it straight. His words are like a zen koan. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

06-09-2010, 07:33 AM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I'm in trouble. I'm so far from prefect I can't even spell it. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-08-2010, 09:20 PM	#4
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	I'm just saying that a building or any philosophical way of understanding that has a poorly laid foundation will eventually be a loss. I assume. Yes of coarse no one is perfect but Gods Voice, if you can hear it, will tell you how perfect his will really is. If God is perfect and He is and we were made in his likeness then we should strive to be perfect as he is perfect.

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HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Oh no, he's got an arm off! __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

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