Feds Win Right to War Protesters' Records

richlevy · 02-08-2004, 08:49 PM

Well, so much for free speech and right to assemble. I hope that everyone, conservative or liberal, finds this disturbing. Unless the government can make a national security connection, what purpose could this have?

Do pro-choice groups, or other groups who have the blessing of the administration face the same kind of scrutiny, even if some of their members are prone to violence? Since there appears to be a gag order involved here, I don't know if the public will ever hear a justification for this.

Feds Win Right to War Protesters' Records

xoxoxoBruce · 02-08-2004, 09:27 PM

So the terrorists are winning.

elSicomoro · 02-08-2004, 09:36 PM

Who are the terrorists?

Beestie · 02-10-2004, 12:27 PM

That is shocking. I thought the government was prohibited from spying on its own citizens.

I assume we have tforchsA nhoJ to thank for this. The bar (what constitutes reasonable suspicion or probable cause) is getting lower and lower and lower and...

FileNotFound · 02-10-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
Who are the terrorists?

I am according to the Patriot Act...but then who isn't?

wolf · 02-10-2004, 01:41 PM

That's because you're a damn Russkie ... you're liable to go back to being a commie at a moment's notice, if it is to your advantage.

(is there anyway to make the winky smiley larger to make the humorous content of this post more clear?)

FileNotFound · 02-10-2004, 02:07 PM

If I wanted to be a Commie I'd just move to Canada.

wolf · 02-10-2004, 02:17 PM

You'd go if they let you ride sheep.

FileNotFound · 02-10-2004, 02:59 PM

If I really was that hung up on sheep riding I'd go to New Zeland.

richlevy · 02-10-2004, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FileNotFound
If I really was that hung up on sheep riding I'd go to New Zeland.

Yes, but in order to get there, you have to buy a ticket, and it helps if you can spell New Zealand.

Just say kiwi, they'll get the idea.

richlevy · 02-10-2004, 11:07 PM

U.S. Nixes Subpoenas Against Protesters

It looks like the feds caved in. This means that they've either decided that that it just wasn't right to persecute entire groups of law-abiding individuals, or they realized that the Patriot Act will let them wiretap everybody without having to go public.

02-08-2004, 08:49 PM	#1
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Feds Win Right to War Protesters' Records Well, so much for free speech and right to assemble. I hope that everyone, conservative or liberal, finds this disturbing. Unless the government can make a national security connection, what purpose could this have? Do pro-choice groups, or other groups who have the blessing of the administration face the same kind of scrutiny, even if some of their members are prone to violence? Since there appears to be a gag order involved here, I don't know if the public will ever hear a justification for this. Feds Win Right to War Protesters' Records __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

02-08-2004, 09:27 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	So the terrorists are winning. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-10-2004, 12:27 PM	#4
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	That is shocking. I thought the government was prohibited from spying on its own citizens. I assume we have tforchsA nhoJ to thank for this. The bar (what constitutes reasonable suspicion or probable cause) is getting lower and lower and lower and... __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

02-10-2004, 01:41 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	That's because you're a damn Russkie ... you're liable to go back to being a commie at a moment's notice, if it is to your advantage. (is there anyway to make the winky smiley larger to make the humorous content of this post more clear?) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-10-2004, 02:07 PM	#7
FileNotFound Intouch with his inner sheep rider. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 603	If I wanted to be a Commie I'd just move to Canada. __________________ This is a rat. \|This is a hamster.\| This is a chipmunk.\| This is a Sheep Rider.

02-08-2004, 09:36 PM	#3
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Who are the terrorists?

02-10-2004, 02:17 PM	#8
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You'd go if they let you ride sheep. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-10-2004, 02:59 PM	#9
FileNotFound Intouch with his inner sheep rider. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 603	If I really was that hung up on sheep riding I'd go to New Zeland. __________________ This is a rat. \|This is a hamster.\| This is a chipmunk.\| This is a Sheep Rider.

02-10-2004, 11:07 PM	#11
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	U.S. Nixes Subpoenas Against Protesters It looks like the feds caved in. This means that they've either decided that that it just wasn't right to persecute entire groups of law-abiding individuals, or they realized that the Patriot Act will let them wiretap everybody without having to go public. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

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