Wiener's wiener

[Nirvana]

Apples and oranges. A wife maybe be able to forgive an underwear photo on the internet that's nothing, but a child with someone else? That's harsh! That is a man on a power trip and I don't care to have that kind of a person in office. >[ see megalomania]

[Trilby]

Isn't it Weiner's weiner?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

Apples and oranges. A wife maybe be able to forgive an underwear photo on the internet that's nothing, but a child with someone else? That's harsh! That is a man on a power trip and I don't care to have that kind of a person in office. >[ see megalomania]

They're ALL megalomaniacs. If they weren't they wouldn't put themselves in the spotlight. I agree with Glatt. Lying about an affair probably doesn't impact your ability to serve the people. Lying about your knowledge of a break-in at your opponents headquarters or your knowledge of exchanging arms for hostages probably does.

[Nirvana]

I don't agree they are all megalomaniacs.

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by Brianna

Isn't it Weiner's weiner?

Not according to spellcheck

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

They're ALL megalomaniacs. If they weren't they wouldn't put themselves in the spotlight. I agree with Glatt. Lying about an affair probably doesn't impact your ability to serve the people. Lying about your knowledge of a break-in at your opponents headquarters or your knowledge of exchanging arms for hostages probably does.

At the very least "hey, look at my wiener..hehheh" like some Beavis and Butthead dumbasses makes me think "Could we get a GROWN-UP in office?"

Then I look around and think...

Yeah. Right.

[glatt]

exactly.

I'd prefer my leaders to act with some dignity, but have they ever? The job draws people with huge egos. And voters love them that way.

[infinite monkey]

Wiener probably used a stunt weiner, you know, like Marky Mark at the end of Boogie Nights.

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Wiener probably used a stunt weiner, you know, like Marky Mark at the end of Boogie Nights.

The stunts weren't very cunning.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by glatt

exactly.

I'd prefer my leaders to act with some dignity, but have they ever? The job draws people with huge egos. And voters love them that way.

....

to lead you must first get elected. to get elected you have to get the votes. to get the votes you have to get the attention of the voters. to get the attention of the voters you have to get the attention of the media. to get the attention of the media you have to be more dramatic/outlandish/daring/compelling/unusual than the others --OR-- have enough money to buy your own airtime. Both of these last two are very strong indicators of huge egos.

But.

Despite my airtight analysis above, there are leaders who are not media grabbing showboating attention whores. But they don't make the front page or the crawl to keep you tuned in through the commercials. And they get stuff done too. That we're still a viable society (don't believe the doomsayers, they're wrong again) is a sign of our functioning government. It's not all over. And we do still have people working for the greater good, a good greater than their own individual self.

[infinite monkey]

Jimmy Carter was a decent human, and they chewed him up and spit him out.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Jimmy Carter IS a decent human, and they chewed him up and spit him out.

fify.



Agreed.

[infinite monkey]

*snicker*

Sorry Mr Carter, I knew you were still alive.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by glatt

I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

Amen brother. Well said.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

They are trusted representatives of the people. They stood in front of the people who elected them and lied to them, completely, utterly, and knowingly. That should stand for something. If they are going to lie to everyone in public about something hard and controversial, they will lie about other hard and controversial issues that deal with public trust. At least Arnold stood up and told everyone the truth before he fell on his sword of lies like The Weiner did...