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[glatt]

I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by glatt

I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

Amen brother. Well said.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

I give this as much weight as Arnold cheating on his wife.

Who gives a shit?

If I was the wife, I'd be pissed. If he was running for reelection, and I could vote in that election, I'd consider it along with everything else, and it would count against him. But I really don't care. If I were a woman who received one of these pictures, and I didn't want to receive it, then I'd also be pissed.

But I'm not any of those things, so I don't care.

I don't care if a politician lies to me about their personal life. It's none of my damn business. John Edwards had a love child? I don't care. He illegally used campaign contributions to pay the woman off, or something like that? Then I care.

If they lie about something related to their job, then it matters.

They are trusted representatives of the people. They stood in front of the people who elected them and lied to them, completely, utterly, and knowingly. That should stand for something. If they are going to lie to everyone in public about something hard and controversial, they will lie about other hard and controversial issues that deal with public trust. At least Arnold stood up and told everyone the truth before he fell on his sword of lies like The Weiner did...

[glatt]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

At least Arnold stood up and told everyone the truth before he fell on his sword of lies like The Weiner did...

Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by glatt

Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

My sentiments as well.

These kind of affairs are of no particular interest to me, whether its Weiner, Christopher Lee, who resigned last year after his pic on craigs list, Mark Sourder, who had an affair with a staffer with whom he made an abstinence video, or Senator David Vitter, who was involved in a DC escort service scandal. If their constituents want to re-elect them, as in the case of Vitter, it is their choice.

Cases like John Edwards and former Nevada Senator John Ensign, who paid hush money and got a lobbying job for the husband of the staffer he messed around with, are different. These involve criminal violations of campaign finance laws.

In the end, I recall a famous quote from Huey Long -- "the only way I can be brought down is to be caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

Yea, I generally agree. In fact I would go so far as to say that he should not step down. Wait for the next election and let the chips fall. He did lie directly to his peeps over the event, I would see that as a breech of trust, but I don't have to vote for him.

As for Arnold, yea he kept is a secret. Not giving him a pass, only that when the time came to own up he did so, certainly because it was going to make the press one way or another. Not different circumstances, just a different form, an IMHO, a more honest and direct way to damage control.

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by glatt

Covering up an affair for like ten years is telling the truth?

Yes. They shouldn't lie. I agree. I'm not saying what they have done is OK. I'm saying I don't care. It isn't important enough to worry about. No crime, no foul. No professional ethical breach, no foul. No screwing over the constituents, no foul. No abuse of power, no foul.

Wiener betrayed his wife. I don't respect him for that. But it's none of my business.

Lance Armstrong cheated on his wife, but I don't see anyone asking him to return his medals for that. Tiger Woods too.

No, but he cheated on his sport too and should have to return his medals for doping. That man's a well-rounded cheater.