Torture memos

[Undertoad]

I don't disagree. I don't think I've stated a position. I just find that partisanship is a terrible way to determine truth, guaranteed to fail regularly, and that's important.

Also, you used the word believe, and that set me off. Why choose to believe when the facts are not present? Why not just wait for better information, or admit you can't know?

As a skeptic, I believe that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I find many partisan people making extraordinary claims *constantly*, with little to no actual evidence in sight. I think that's a big mistake.

Eventually they wind up in such a tight circle that it's embarrassing, as in the case of UG, whose logic is so minimal at this point that he'll have this conversation:

UG: "This Democratic Party idea is dumb."
Others: "Why, what makes it dumb?"
UG: "Because it's from the Democrats."

The radio biz takes advantage of this kind of thinking:

Excited teen: "KQOR plays the very best music!"
Program Director: "Why do you think that's the best music?"
Excited teen: "Because it's on KQOR, duh!!!"