Are these people serious?

xoxoxoBruce · 10-13-2006, 01:43 PM

Oh, ok...they aren't the ones that actually examine(cut up) the body over there. When a doctor thinks, somebody should look into this death, the coroner is the one that does it. That explains that.

So, the British coroner thinks the US Marines should show up for questioning in England for a shooting in a war zone, namely Iraq. Don't tell me he was surprised when they didn't show?

The daughter says

Quote:

"They did not come to this inquest to explain their actions. Let them now do so in our criminal courts where they are guaranteed to get a fair trial."

I don't think they could ever explain their actions to her satisfaction. Obviously her fathers death three years ago affected he deeply and I can understand that....but she's being an ass.

Hoof Hearted · 10-13-2006, 02:36 PM

What about the term "killed by friendly fire". Doesn't that apply to a person who was killed by their own (or allied) forces during a battle? It would basically be determined to have been a death occuring from being in the wrong place (war zone) at the wrong time (battle).

You get in the middle of a dog fight, something's gonna get bit...

xoxoxoBruce · 10-13-2006, 02:59 PM

Not sure friendly fire applies to reporters as it does combatants?

Hippikos · 10-13-2006, 03:29 PM

By Year:
• 2006: 25
• 2005: 22
• 2004: 24
• 2003: 14

By Nationality:
• Iraqi: 64
• European: 11
• Other Arab countries: 3
• United States: 2
• All other countries: 5

By Gender:
• Men: 79
• Women: 6

By Circumstance:
• Murder: 49
• Crossfire or other acts of war: 36

Responsibility:
• Insurgent action: 59 (Includes crossfire, suicide bombings, and murders.)
• U.S. fire: 14 (CPJ has not found evidence to conclude that U.S. troops targeted journalists in these cases. While the cases are classified as crossfire, CPJ continues to investigate.)
• Iraqi armed forces, during U.S. invasion: 3 (All are crossfire or acts of war.)
• Iraqi armed forces, post-U.S. invasion: 1 (Crossfire)
• Source unconfirmed: 8

By Job:
• Photojournalists: 23 (Includes still photographers and camera operators.)
• Directors, reporters and editors: 49
• Producers: 7
• Technicians: 6

By Location:
• Anbar province (Fallujah, Ramadi): 6
• Nineveh province (Mosul): 11
• Baghdad province: 49
• Saleheddin province (Samara): 4
• Basrah province: 3
• Diyala province (Baqubah): 2
• Arbil province: 6
• Karbala province: 1
• Najaf province: 1
• Sulaymaniya province: 1
• Unclear: 1

By embedded status:
• Embedded: 6
• Non-Embedded or “unilateral”: 79

Type of news organization:
• Working for international news organization: 37
• Working for Iraqi news organization: 48

Highest death tolls among news organization:
• Iraq Media Network (includes Al-Iraqiya, its affiliates, and Sabah newspaper): 11
• Al-Arabiya: 6
• Al-Shaabiya: 5
• Reuters: 4
• Kurdistan TV 4

(WW2: 68 journalists killed)
(Vietnam: 66 journalists killed)

xoxoxoBruce · 10-14-2006, 08:03 AM

Who, or what, is CPJ

10-13-2006, 02:36 PM	#2
Hoof Hearted ...you smell something? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 420	What about the term "killed by friendly fire". Doesn't that apply to a person who was killed by their own (or allied) forces during a battle? It would basically be determined to have been a death occuring from being in the wrong place (war zone) at the wrong time (battle). You get in the middle of a dog fight, something's gonna get bit... __________________ I have the ability of single-minded determination and focu...Hey, look! A horse!

10-13-2006, 02:59 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Not sure friendly fire applies to reporters as it does combatants? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-13-2006, 03:29 PM	#4
Hippikos Flocci Non Facio Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In The Line Of Fire Posts: 571	85 Journalists Killed in Iraq By Year: • 2006: 25 • 2005: 22 • 2004: 24 • 2003: 14 By Nationality: • Iraqi: 64 • European: 11 • Other Arab countries: 3 • United States: 2 • All other countries: 5 By Gender: • Men: 79 • Women: 6 By Circumstance: • Murder: 49 • Crossfire or other acts of war: 36 Responsibility: • Insurgent action: 59 (Includes crossfire, suicide bombings, and murders.) • U.S. fire: 14 (CPJ has not found evidence to conclude that U.S. troops targeted journalists in these cases. While the cases are classified as crossfire, CPJ continues to investigate.) • Iraqi armed forces, during U.S. invasion: 3 (All are crossfire or acts of war.) • Iraqi armed forces, post-U.S. invasion: 1 (Crossfire) • Source unconfirmed: 8 By Job: • Photojournalists: 23 (Includes still photographers and camera operators.) • Directors, reporters and editors: 49 • Producers: 7 • Technicians: 6 By Location: • Anbar province (Fallujah, Ramadi): 6 • Nineveh province (Mosul): 11 • Baghdad province: 49 • Saleheddin province (Samara): 4 • Basrah province: 3 • Diyala province (Baqubah): 2 • Arbil province: 6 • Karbala province: 1 • Najaf province: 1 • Sulaymaniya province: 1 • Unclear: 1 By embedded status: • Embedded: 6 • Non-Embedded or “unilateral”: 79 Type of news organization: • Working for international news organization: 37 • Working for Iraqi news organization: 48 Highest death tolls among news organization: • Iraq Media Network (includes Al-Iraqiya, its affiliates, and Sabah newspaper): 11 • Al-Arabiya: 6 • Al-Shaabiya: 5 • Reuters: 4 • Kurdistan TV 4 (WW2: 68 journalists killed) (Vietnam: 66 journalists killed) __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Last edited by Hippikos; 10-13-2006 at 03:33 PM.

10-14-2006, 08:03 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Who, or what, is CPJ __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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