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Old 04-18-2007, 03:42 PM   #1
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Many people will use this terrible tragedy as an excuse to put through a political agenda other than my own. This tawdry abuse of human suffering for political gain sickens me to the core of my being. Those people who have different political views from me ought to be ashamed of themselves for thinking of cheap partisan point-scoring at a time like this. In any case, what this tragedy really shows us is that, so far from putting into practice political views other than my own, it is precisely my political agenda which ought to be advanced.

Not only are my political views vindicated by this terrible tragedy, but also the status of my profession. Furthermore, it is only in the context of a national and international tragedy like this that we are reminded of the very special status of my hobby, and its particular claim to legislative protection. My religious and spiritual views also have much to teach us about the appropriate reaction to these truly terrible events.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:18 PM   #2
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I'm right and you're wrong.
I didn't write the article, reduce the writer's IQ or social savvy.

What is wrong with shooting guns for fun?

This is in no way a feminist issue. Guns have no sex, anyone can pull a trigger at will for fun or self protection. We often forget that men need that just as much as women. I happen to be very close to a man who has been raped.
Self-defense is self-defense.

The class 3 permit really just takes patience, been thinking about it and going to Knob Creek.
If you are worried about an AK you really don't want to be near my next Christmas present, Barrett M468 assault rifle.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:30 PM   #3
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I didn't write the article, reduce the writer's IQ or social savvy.
I was joking, rephrasing what I had quoted from elsewhere on the internet.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:34 PM   #4
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I didn't write the article, reduce the writer's IQ or social savvy.

What is wrong with shooting guns for fun?

This is in no way a feminist issue. Guns have no sex, anyone can pull a trigger at will for fun or self protection. We often forget that men need that just as much as women. I happen to be very close to a man who has been raped.
Self-defense is self-defense.

The full-auto permit really just takes patience, been thinking about it and going to Knob Creek.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZpCLvXsoM
Most feminists are also concerned with preventing sexual assaults against men. Feminism is not just about protecting women, it is about preventing sex and gender from being used to oppress people. When someone uses their sexual organs to perpetrate an assault on a defenseless person of any gender, that is against the philosophy of feminism.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:40 PM   #5
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Most feminists are also concerned with preventing sexual assaults against men. Feminism is not just about protecting women, it is about preventing sex and gender from being used to oppress people. When someone uses their sexual organs to perpetrate an assault on a defenseless person of any gender, that is against the philosophy of feminism.
Yes, cause a philosophy called FEMINism sounds really gender-neutral and equal to me.

Feminism is just as bad as Misogyny. Feminism holds women over men. (I'll admit that I'm somewhat guilty of thinking women are better, but thats only cause they dont try to act all macho, which I loathe... not actually because of any like, inherent things.)

Everything and everyone should be utterly gender-neutral if you ask me. Gender should never be any sort of issue whatsoever (unless you're about to hop in bed with someone, but even then... I'm against it!). Holding men and women to a different standard is discriminatory and stupid, always.


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Old 04-19-2007, 11:36 AM   #6
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Yes, cause a philosophy called FEMINism sounds really gender-neutral and equal to me.

Feminism is just as bad as Misogyny. Feminism holds women over men. (I'll admit that I'm somewhat guilty of thinking women are better, but thats only cause they dont try to act all macho, which I loathe... not actually because of any like, inherent things.)

Everything and everyone should be utterly gender-neutral if you ask me. Gender should never be any sort of issue whatsoever (unless you're about to hop in bed with someone, but even then... I'm against it!). Holding men and women to a different standard is discriminatory and stupid, always.


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Ibram, feminism is about equality. It's about trying to create a world where NO ONE is harassed, oppressed or assaulted because of their gender or sexuality. Meaning that women shouldn't have to be sex objects and men shouldn't have to be macho warriors, either. Unless they want to be.

The idea that feminism is about female supremacy is one that has been created by the reactionary elements in the media. Always better to get these things from the source.
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