Men Abortion and Choice

[lumberjim]

bruce,

this analogy would work better if you were comparing it with someone compelling another person to do drugs.

When it comes down to personal liberty....we should be allowed to do whatever drugs we choose to.

Unfortunately, the reality of life means that those who do drugs also have to share reality with the rest of us. When those folks repeatedly fuck things up and cost innocent people things like THEIR lives, safety and money, then the lawmakers are compelled to take steps like regulating and outlawing the drugs that effect the drug users.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by BigV

[winging it]Hey, xoB, is the "doing" against the law? Or is it something more tangible, more definite, like possession?[/flying it into the ground]

That's an end run, you can do them without possessing them.

Originally Posted by DanaC

Because it is against the law. Personally i think it shouldn't be.

It's not an equivalent though, because this isn't about whether the state has a right to tell women what to do with their bodies (again, I think they should not), but rather empowering individual men with the right to make decisions about individual women's bodies.

No equivilent, Dana. I'm not getting into that silly proposal, just responding to Ali's reality.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Because some laws infringe on rights. In fact, according to you, all of them do.

God damn right they do.... every one.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

bruce,

this analogy would work better if you were comparing it with someone compelling another person to do drugs.

Not an analogy, see above.

When it comes down to personal liberty....we should be allowed to do whatever drugs we choose to.

Unfortunately, the reality of life means that those who do drugs also have to share reality with the rest of us. When those folks repeatedly fuck things up and cost innocent people things like THEIR lives, safety and money, then the lawmakers are compelled to take steps like regulating and outlawing the drugs that effect the drug users.

That's complete bullshit, considering how many people alcohol and tobacco kill.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

That's complete bullshit, considering how many people alcohol and tobacco kill.

are there or are there not laws prohibiting and or regulating the use of drugs ....including alcohol and terbaccy? complete bullshit?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

are there or are there not laws prohibiting and or regulating the use of drugs ....including alcohol and terbaccy? complete bullshit?

Got me... missed regulating.
But their drug laws are still complete bullshit... it's all about money.