Men Abortion and Choice

[DanaC]

My mistake, I thought you had professed libertarian leanings.

I wouldn't have thought I'd need to specify the nature of my question, given that you have spent much of this thread advocating a change in law. If you are simply expressing how you would feel if you were the father in question, then that's personal. You are advocating a change in law, that is a political opinion.

Originally Posted by DanaC

My mistake, I thought you had professed libertarian leanings.

I wouldn't have thought I'd need to specify the nature of my question, given that you have spent much of this thread advocating a change in law. If you are simply expressing how you would feel if you were the father in question, then that's personal. You are advocating a change in law, that is a political opinion.

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Why not politically?

You can't, and should not try to legislate morality.

If there are methods in place other than the law to ensure the rights of both parents, that would be ideal.
Unfortunately, the current legal climate favors the female alone, my suggestion sought only to level that field for both equal parents.

Libertarians are about as conservative as one can get (neo-cons, the fools who call themselves conservative today are NOT conservative by any stretch of imagination or the definition of the word).

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Sorry dude, I don't buy it. If the men carried the babies for 9 months and took the same physiological risks it would be different. The woman carries the baby, she get to say if she wants to do that for 9 months or if she wants to terminate it. Her choice, not yours. Men are but the sperm donors.

So the man gets the kid the woman runs out on him, he shoots it in the head, no sweat, right?

I guess all of you feel it is ok for women to smoke, do heroin, meth, drink, whatever while pregnant, right... it's not a kid yet and it's "just her body"?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Libertarians are about as conservative as one can get (neo-cons, the fools who call themselves conservative today are NOT conservative by any stretch of imagination or the definition of the word).

Libertarians can technically be called liberal since they it has roots with classical liberalism. There are distinct differences between the two but they both stress freedom.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Libertarians can technically be called liberal since they it has roots with classical liberalism. There are distinct differences between the two but they both stress freedom.

I disagree with that, at their root I think most liberals want a nanny-state.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Unfortunately, the current legal climate favors the female alone, my suggestion sought only to level that field for both equal parents.

How would it do that?