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Old 06-11-2016, 10:29 AM   #10
Undertoad
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when I hear complaints from the right about pc it sounds like they want public officials to put those people in their place by using the N word or going back to denouncing homosexuality in press conferences
really? do they say that, or is it more nuanced and you have to interpret what you see through your own informed lens.

Because the piece says it's more nuanced:
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As a Southerner myself, two things I've maintained for years about Southerners (which generalizes to a bulk of today's conservatives) are

- They have a complicated relationship with race (which generalizes to identity politics), and
- They can change, but not as fast as progressive liberals want them to.

To the first of these points, most conservatives are not quite racist, but they hold attitudes and say things that more racially sensitive people would see as racist. The great fall of buttercream mogul Paula Deen, and its borderline-insane conservative backlash, makes a great example. This distinction is subtle but important, and a huge part of it lies in realizing that conservatives, often at some considerable personal effort, do not see themselves as racist and often actively try not to be.
It's like, the new polite society heard Deen and said, "Hey that's racist". The not quite so fashionable people heard Deen and said "WTF, that's nothing; we know her, she speaks our language and she is not a racist. And if that's what gets you fired from, geez, not only basic cable, but the whole general public? We don't even know where we are any more."

I'll tellya, being from around here, and that means in the big connected metropolitan area (and on the Internet, frankly), Pittsburgh feels 10 years behind when I visit it. I can't imagine what Birmingham is like.

It's not bragging. It's not like Philadelphia is any magically better. The people face the same problems. Because all our polite talk hasn't really solved very much, if one cares to admit it. The ghetto remains the ghetto. The poor remain poor. Empathy is still at a premium. But we sure do like to feel better about *ourselves* for it all.

And aren't the Trump voters, as a bloc, the people we get to feel we're better than? And we the fashionable have a strange way of convincing people, the only way we know is shaming them.

And now, when I see the fashionable people mocking, shaming, getting angry, repeating things over and over, and having nothing else for a topic of conversation, I think, this is going exactly how you want it to go. You actually want this shaming. It is making you feel superior. You LOVE it. There is JOY in your voice and in your words. And with your voice and words you will elect Trump.
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