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[Griff]

They may make things incrementally better but I see where stuff like pronoun usage for people you don't know really isn't manageable. My main point is that most pc complaints are really about how the complainant wants to be a bigot without being called on it.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

My main point is that most pc complaints are really about how the complainant wants to be a bigot without being called on it.

So you are saying (in this case) that PC is about perspective of the outsider who wants to have a different opinion without being accused of being anti-social.

Curious are the many interpretations of PC including one from the Oxford dictionary. Perspective can completely change meaning of the phrase 'political correctness'.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Griff

They may make things incrementally better but I see where stuff like pronoun usage for people you don't know really isn't manageable. ...

But, but, if their contribution is to talking the talk, then it's up to someone else to make walking the walk better now isn't it.

The main complaint about political correctness is that it's a placebo for the masses. It's too easily abused by individuals and groups to inflate their importance by mislabeling differences as intolerance and fear as hate.

Let people say what they want to say within reason so their opinions aren't driven underground with their actions to follow, especially in the political arena. I'll make my own decisions about when lines are crossed.

That's one of the differences between Clinton and Trump: Clinton tries to use political correctness to tell people what to think. Clinton appeals to the human drones. Trump tells people what he thinks and leaves it up to them. Clinton is part of the problem. That doesn't mean Trump is the solution; but, his communication style has gained him traction that even the rest of the GOP doesn't have.

The bottom line is that the less pc there is, the more frank the discussions and the more likely resulting change will be lasting change. That's the pc complaint.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Discussions of PC most often center about race, which is a distraction from both race and PC-ness.
If I see someone in a wheelchair I say they are crippled. Right away someone says, no-no, they are "handicapped", but another jumps in, they're "motion restricted". Whoa stop, they are "locomotion attenuated". By the time everybody settles on an acceptable terminology, everyone is butt hurt and it's way passed bed time. Meanwhile nothing of value has been discussed, and whenever I hear any of those terms I automatically translate to cripple in my head.

If you are bored, and want to kill a lot of time while making a lot of enemies, describe someone retarded. Recently in an automotive forum, a guy was describing an ignition timing problem, saying it was acting retarded. Right away two people jumped on his shit for using that word. Mindless reaction, no brain involved... retards.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

If you are bored, and want to kill a lot of time while making a lot of enemies, describe someone retarded. Recently in an automotive forum, a guy was describing an ignition timing problem, saying it was acting retarded. Right away two people jumped on his shit for using that word. Mindless reaction, no brain involved... retards.

This one is especially fascinating to me because it is still very much a legitimate medical diagnosis. Little known fact, "moron," "idiot," and "imbecile" also used to be medical terms, with specific associated IQ levels. They updated the terminology when those words became common pejoratives, but now the pejorative rejection moves so fast, medicine can't keep up. Your kid has a diagnosis of mental retardation, just don't read his file out loud in public...

[Griff]

When I was in Grad school it was still Mental Retardation but we just said MR because kids do have ears. It changed to Intellectual Disability with the DSM-V following the Fed Gov change over. I serve a teenager with Down's who was being mocked as a "retard" in his high school hallways, of course he calls himself nigga, so turnabout I guess.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

I serve a teenager with Down's who was being mocked as a "retard" in his high school hallways, of course he calls himself nigga, so turnabout I guess.

How does this apply to political correctness? Are you saying this is the result of PC?