Earthquake

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

I would give more of that one penny to NGOs with a proven track record of accomplishment in improving economic or social conditions in developing countries.

Would Haiti make the list?

Those that didn't get aid would probably turn into havens for burkha wearing terrorists too :p

Originally Posted by classicman

Would Haiti make the list?

Of course, Haiti, the poorest country in the western hemisphere would make the list of countries where US aid should be directed...but it is also a very good example of a corrupt or incapable government....so in that sense, that very small piece of that one penny probably accomplished very little.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Of course, ...but it is also a very good example of a corrupt or incapable government....

Originally Posted by Redux

with a proven track record of accomplishment in improving economic or social conditions

huh?

Originally Posted by classicman

huh?

Read what I wrote....more of that one penny to NGOs with a proven track record of accomplishment in improving economic or social conditions in developing countries.

NGOs -Non-governmental organizations.

[Spexxvet]

Well, I guess we do everything right. You guys win. Let's not try to save lives, we'll just continue to throw money at dead people.

[xoxoxoBruce]

C'mon Spexx, you can't be that stupid... it's just not possible. Why didn't we do this, or why didn't we do that, in retrospect, is stupid. We can't do it all.
I was reading about how geologists are using satellites to try and figure what moved and how much, to determine if and when a major aftershock might happen. They said there were no monitoring stations in Haiti, unlike there is most everywhere else, because nobody was willing to work there. It just wasn't safe, even after the UN peacekeepers arrived.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

To which behavior are you referring?

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

why didn't you donate, by choice, to them long enough ago to make a difference during the earthquake. Do you know what I'm getting at? We give now, but it's too late. 100,000 people are dead.

THIS


trying to give bruce a guilt trip for not having helped before there was a need? what the crap?

[tw]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

trying to give bruce a quilt trip for not having helped before there was a need?

How did quilted northern get into this thread? Is WalMart also trying to poison their kids?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

THIS


trying to give bruce a guilt trip for not having helped before there was a need? what the crap?

That is ugly to the bone.

[skysidhe]

The US has sent millions to Hatti at every turn.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100113/...sasters_us_aid

The whole world seems to be helping.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...ntry-donations

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Read what I wrote....more of that one penny to NGOs
NGOs -Non-governmental organizations.

I missed it and thats why I asked if Haiti would qualify - you said yes.

Originally Posted by classicman

Would Haiti make the list?

Originally Posted by Redux

Of course, Haiti, would make the list

Down boy! We're all good.

Originally Posted by skysidhe

The US has sent millions to Hatti at every turn.

He was referring to aid BEFORE a disaster.

Originally Posted by classicman

Down boy! We're all good.

Sheesh!

He was referring to aid BEFORE a disaster.

In 08, we gave about $260 million in socio-economic aid to Haiti through US AID.

http://www.usaid.gov/locations/latin...ry_Profile.pdf

Given that total US socio-economic foreign aid is about $25 billion (of a $3 trillion federal budget) or less than one penny on the dollar.

That would make US aid to Haiti about one penny of that one penny....to a close and poorest neighbor.

IMO, we can do better as a nation (and not discounting at all the outpouring of generosity of the American people in response to the tragedy), but at the same time, we need to guarantee a better bang for the bucks...and that is where the NGOs come in rather throwing $$$ at the Haitian government.

[classicman]

I saw such disparate #'s as to the amount of aid given - Thanks for hopefully clarifying that.
How much have we given over the past say decade? What did they do with it? (Apparently they did NOT buy rebar)
How many people are in Haiti? Whats the breakdown per capita on that aid?

[piercehawkeye45]

So rebar would have prevented this? Uh huh.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

So rebar would have prevented this? Uh huh.

When a country is fubar to the extent of Haiti, the issue goes way beyond rebar.