"Money". Is it Worth it? - Page 2

Shawnee123 · 01-12-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

There is a line that can be drawn and a line that can be seen, but a line that can be drawn isn't always a line that can be seen, and a line that can be seen isn't always a line that should have been drawn. Also, sometimes lines are different lengths, widths, etc.

Flint just can't hide his line eyes.

Bullitt · 01-12-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Flint just can't hide his line eyes.

When you're making $10/hr cleaning up blood, vomit, and splinting bones, yes it is worth it.

Clodfobble · 01-12-2011, 09:13 PM

Anyone who feels their money isn't worth it, I will gladly take the burden off their hands.

Flint · 01-12-2011, 09:19 PM

Nobody "has" money. There is no concrete aspect to the experience of "having" money. You can do or buy things with money, and the value is exactly the value of those things. You can hold some money in reserve for the purposes of doing or buying future things, but at no point does the value of the money cease to be a function of those proposed future things. People who don't have any money think that there is a point where you will "have" some money, but the fact is: that never happens. Money has no intrinsic value. You can't eat it, etc.

TheMercenary · 01-13-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Nobody "has" money. There is no concrete aspect to the experience of "having" money. You can do or buy things with money, and the value is exactly the value of those things. You can hold some money in reserve for the purposes of doing or buying future things, but at no point does the value of the money cease to be a function of those proposed future things. People who don't have any money think that there is a point where you will "have" some money, but the fact is: that never happens. Money has no intrinsic value. You can't eat it, etc.

The only exception would be that many of those "things" you buy with money are immediately depreciated the moment you leave the store.

monster · 01-12-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

at what point is the line drawn and self seeking millionaires declared hell bound???????

At the point where they have no immediate need for more money and their earning will hurt someone else.

smoothmoniker · 01-13-2011, 12:25 AM

Hell-bound greed is anyone making 10% more than me.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-13-2011, 12:53 AM

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....at what point is the line drawn and self seeking millionaires declared hell bound?

Since hell has all the debauchery that heaven won't allow, it's obviously more expensive. So that extra coin might be needed.

HungLikeJesus · 01-13-2011, 03:03 PM

Money is like water - it's most useful when it's flowing.

JBKlyde · 01-13-2011, 03:19 PM

it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.. that's why I prefer to be poor...

Flint · 01-13-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.. that's why I prefer to be poor...

I doubt that this is the reason. It is more likely that to "be poor" is simply the default mode, i.e. it takes effort and a plan to acquire resources, therefore if these conditions are not met (given that objects at rest tend to stay at rest) the natural consequence is one that does not require a philosophical reason to exist.

kerosene · 01-13-2011, 04:48 PM

Have you ever met someone who is poor by choice or is it always by default? I don't think I have.

Flint · 01-13-2011, 05:05 PM

Actually one of my very best friends in the world is what I guess you would could call "poor by choice" but I can tell you that he doesn't toss off cliche Bible verses as a half-ass explanation. My friend leads a very simple lifestyle, very downscaled and uncluttered. He lives within his means, does not use credit, and manages to have everything he needs in order to be content.

Recently he got a job making about twice his former pay, and what he did was to maintain his current lifestyle and place the entire surplus into savings. Over time he will "have" some money in this way. It will be through practical decision making--not by laziness or amateur philosophy. Once again, "money" itself has no intrinsic value, it simply serves the functions you consciously direct it towards.

glatt · 01-13-2011, 05:06 PM

I've met plenty of people who make less money by choice. It's about trade offs. You can choose to make less money and have a better quality of life.

I could work a second job and have more money, but I'd rather be with my family.

kerosene · 01-13-2011, 05:18 PM

I guess I am not really saying "less money by choice." I am saying poor by choice...but I think that means we have to define poor, then.

01-12-2011, 09:13 PM	#3
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01-12-2011, 09:19 PM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Nobody "has" money. There is no concrete aspect to the experience of "having" money. You can do or buy things with money, and the value is exactly the value of those things. You can hold some money in reserve for the purposes of doing or buying future things, but at no point does the value of the money cease to be a function of those proposed future things. People who don't have any money think that there is a point where you will "have" some money, but the fact is: that never happens. Money has no intrinsic value. You can't eat it, etc. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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01-13-2011, 05:05 PM	#13
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Actually one of my very best friends in the world is what I guess you would could call "poor by choice" but I can tell you that he doesn't toss off cliche Bible verses as a half-ass explanation. My friend leads a very simple lifestyle, very downscaled and uncluttered. He lives within his means, does not use credit, and manages to have everything he needs in order to be content. Recently he got a job making about twice his former pay, and what he did was to maintain his current lifestyle and place the entire surplus into savings. Over time he will "have" some money in this way. It will be through practical decision making--not by laziness or amateur philosophy. Once again, "money" itself has no intrinsic value, it simply serves the functions you consciously direct it towards. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-13-2011, 03:19 PM	#10
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.. that's why I prefer to be poor...

01-13-2011, 04:48 PM	#12
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Have you ever met someone who is poor by choice or is it always by default? I don't think I have.

01-13-2011, 05:06 PM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I've met plenty of people who make less money by choice. It's about trade offs. You can choose to make less money and have a better quality of life. I could work a second job and have more money, but I'd rather be with my family.

01-13-2011, 05:18 PM	#15
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	I guess I am not really saying "less money by choice." I am saying poor by choice...but I think that means we have to define poor, then.

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