Bye Pam - Page 2

infinite monkey · 11-01-2011, 12:13 PM

IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO IGNORE A TROLL.

No, feed it instead. Then WAY later UT gets to ban it. Gee, that was effective.

Nope, you like the attention and drama as much as Pammy does. You can always drool on UT later for needing to take action cause no one could shut the hell up and ignore it.

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what about this are you not getting?

classicman · 11-01-2011, 12:16 PM

^^Troll^^

BigV · 11-01-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

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There were many different effective strategies available to deal with the kerfuffle ignited and fueled by the Pams,
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

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No, the only effective strategy was to ignore the fucking troll.
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We disagree. That's fine.

classicman · 11-01-2011, 12:17 PM

One could also fan the flames till it burned itself out.

infinite monkey · 11-01-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

We disagree. That's fine.

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Originally Posted by classicman

One could also fan the flames till it burned itself out.

Sorry for my harshness. It just seemed it would be obvious, especially after the fact, that any course other than extreme ignore really doesn't work. Well, banning, but we can't ban willy nilly and we don't need to ban if the offender doesn't get reactions and just goes away.

I've been wrong before.

And I really didn't want to get involved. But, after the fact, I had to say what I've been thinking.

BigV · 11-01-2011, 12:46 PM

: peace :

: olive branch :

(sorry, couldn't find the pictures, please accept these few words as a down payment on my thousand word balance, thanks in advance.)

infinite monkey · 11-01-2011, 12:47 PM

:peace out, dude:

: olives in a martini:

wolf · 11-01-2011, 12:50 PM

I am concerned that banning will make her try harder to get back.

Although I don't think that her next post will come from Denmark, the only place in the world that can treat her rare form of pituitary tumor that presents with symptoms of everything except a pituitary tumor.

Undertoad · 11-01-2011, 12:57 PM

At one point, the predecessor to the Cellar went without any administration for a long time. It was then that the community developed the Passive Ignorance Silence Strike, where a troll would be ignored by all regulars. There was no Ignore feature at the time, you know, everyone just "manually" ignored the person's posts.

It was devastatingly effective. The target knew that their posts were being read, but there were no replies.

We do have Coventry, "global ignore", and recently Emma's time there was similarly effective. Pams can go there next if they are persistent.

I don't think P.I.S.S. can work in our modern day. The Internet is just too damn big; and the Cellar is bigger too. There is a constant stream of spammers, trolls and mentally ill users.

limey · 11-01-2011, 12:59 PM

I'm sort of with infinite monkey on this, i.e. I chose not to make any responses or references to the Pams as that is obviously what they wanted and I felt anything I said would simply encourage them to stay.
I was also rather puzzled by many people's keenness to interact with the Pams whilst declaring them irritating, but each to their own ...
Now, where's the martini for those olives? Oh, well, we'll just have to make do with this ...

...

infinite monkey · 11-01-2011, 01:00 PM

That'll work for me!

How about Whopper martinis?

DanaC · 11-01-2011, 01:03 PM

And we all have our own distinct intinctive responses to them.

Also, it started, much as it has in the past, with her apparently trying to fit in after retrurning from a ban. So that has a lulling effect. By the time she unleashes the crazy you've already let down your guard :P

I think we always have to allow for the possibility (Pam aside, I think, she's a special case) that someone will settle the fuck down and start interacting with us as a human being instead of a troll. It's happened before. It could happen again.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) we all have different thresholds that trigger a change in attitude. We all have different levels of tolerance when it comes to personal insults. Things that will draw one dwellar in will baffle another and vice versa.

I;d say the current system works reasonably well, and worked well this time. A few days of PP all over the forum and now gone. The opportunity was there, the door was opened, she chose to shit on the floor and was escorted from the building.

Sundae · 11-01-2011, 01:03 PM

Whopper Malteasers?

DanaC · 11-01-2011, 01:05 PM

I will admit, I find her slightly fascinating. I don't mean I want her around, but when she is here and is posting, I cannot let go of the essential question, is this person just playing, or is this genuine mental illness?

More than any of the trolls, the roleplayer in me is a little drawn to Pam.

Undertoad · 11-01-2011, 01:08 PM

Effective troll is effective!

11-01-2011, 12:16 PM	#17
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	^^Troll^^ __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-01-2011, 12:17 PM	#19
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	One could also fan the flames till it burned itself out. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-01-2011, 12:46 PM	#21
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	: peace : : olive branch : (sorry, couldn't find the pictures, please accept these few words as a down payment on my thousand word balance, thanks in advance.) __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

11-01-2011, 12:50 PM	#23
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I am concerned that banning will make her try harder to get back. Although I don't think that her next post will come from Denmark, the only place in the world that can treat her rare form of pituitary tumor that presents with symptoms of everything except a pituitary tumor. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-01-2011, 12:59 PM	#25
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	I'm sort of with infinite monkey on this, i.e. I chose not to make any responses or references to the Pams as that is obviously what they wanted and I felt anything I said would simply encourage them to stay. I was also rather puzzled by many people's keenness to interact with the Pams whilst declaring them irritating, but each to their own ... Now, where's the martini for those olives? Oh, well, we'll just have to make do with this ... ... __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

11-01-2011, 12:47 PM	#22
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	:peace out, dude: : olives in a martini:

11-01-2011, 12:57 PM	#24
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	At one point, the predecessor to the Cellar went without any administration for a long time. It was then that the community developed the Passive Ignorance Silence Strike, where a troll would be ignored by all regulars. There was no Ignore feature at the time, you know, everyone just "manually" ignored the person's posts. It was devastatingly effective. The target knew that their posts were being read, but there were no replies. We do have Coventry, "global ignore", and recently Emma's time there was similarly effective. Pams can go there next if they are persistent. I don't think P.I.S.S. can work in our modern day. The Internet is just too damn big; and the Cellar is bigger too. There is a constant stream of spammers, trolls and mentally ill users.

11-01-2011, 01:00 PM	#26
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	That'll work for me! How about Whopper martinis?

11-01-2011, 01:03 PM	#28
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Whopper Malteasers? __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-01-2011, 01:08 PM	#30
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Effective troll is effective!

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