David Hicks to be brought home? - Page 3

TheMercenary · 03-27-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Apparently he will serve his sentance in Australia - whatever it is as deemed by the one sided military system he's being prosecuted under. I think this is a good thing. If even half of what has been said about Hicks is true, he's short half a brain anyway and will require treatment which is obviously not forthcomming in Gitmo.

NPR did a good story on him today. If they are believed to be accurate the Aussies don't have any real love for him and thinks he is getting what he deserved.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=9156679

Aliantha · 03-27-2007, 04:56 PM

I wouldn't believe everything in the media if I were you.

Realistically, there are very few Australians who are saying he should be simply released. What most Australians are saying is that it's criminal what's been done to him and when are the authorities responsible for that crime going to be held accountable.

His guilt or innocence has become secondary.

03-27-2007, 06:54 PM

A terrorist, secondary? Okee-dokee, you can have em'.

Happy Monkey · 03-27-2007, 07:17 PM

Of course his guilt or innocence is secondary when the issue is how he is treated before his trial. At that point, you can't put guilt or innocence into the equation.

Even after a trial and a guilty verdict, there are issues that are orthogonal to his guilt or innocence.

Aliantha · 03-27-2007, 07:25 PM

Who knows if he's a terrorist? He's never been tried. My statement refers to the fact that he's been treated so poorly and he wasn't even charged for several years. now he's finally agreed to a plea bargain and I don't doubt that it's just so that he can get out of the shithole he's been living in, so this does not prove his guilt.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I wouldn't believe everything in the media if I were you.

Realistically, there are very few Australians who are saying he should be simply released. What most Australians are saying is that it's criminal what's been done to him and when are the authorities responsible for that crime going to be held accountable.

His guilt or innocence has become secondary.

Ok, maybe we could just send him back with some bomb making material or he could fly himself in a 747.

Happy Monkey · 03-27-2007, 07:48 PM

Non sequitur.

Aliantha · 03-27-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Ok, maybe we could just send him back with some bomb making material or he could fly himself in a 747.

Again, no one knows if this man is a terrorist or not.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Again, no one knows if this man is a terrorist or not.

Well I guess my plan is a good way to find out. Ok, if he can't fly an airplane we could just let him fly commercial with a fully loaded AK-47 back to Aussie land.

Aliantha · 03-27-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well I guess my plan is a good way to find out. Ok, if he can't fly an airplane we could just let him fly commercial with a fully loaded AK-47 back to Aussie land.

You really do have issues with reality don't you?

TheMercenary · 03-27-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

You really do have issues with reality don't you?

I am quite in touch with reality. It is people who want to ignore terrorists like Hicks that got us into much of this mess in the first place. Line right up with the rest of the sheep.

Aliantha · 03-27-2007, 08:40 PM

Once again, he's not been proven guilty of any crime. Do you have so little faith in your judicial system that you'll make your own decision instead of waiting for the facts?

TheMercenary · 03-27-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Once again, he's not been proven guilty of any crime. Do you have so little faith in your judicial system that you'll make your own decision instead of waiting for the facts?

No I do not want to wait. I want to send him back to Aussie Land as soon as possible. Nothing more nothing less. I want him to go home to his country of origin. I want all of the detainees to go home to thier home countries immediately. Released to thier countries governments to do with as they please. I want he US to stop spending tax payer dollars on these idiots. Put them all on rafts out to sea. Just get them off our backs.

Hagar · 03-28-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I wouldn't believe everything in the media if I were you.

Realistically, there are very few Australians who are saying he should be simply released. What most Australians are saying is that it's criminal what's been done to him and when are the authorities responsible for that crime going to be held accountable.

His guilt or innocence has become secondary.

That's exactly the way I see it A. Guilty or innocent, justice delayed is still justice denied. Even now, the military commissions don't seem to have much justice about them.

TheMercenary · 03-28-2007, 03:36 PM

Well maybe he will cash in after all.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22

03-27-2007, 04:56 PM	#32
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I wouldn't believe everything in the media if I were you. Realistically, there are very few Australians who are saying he should be simply released. What most Australians are saying is that it's criminal what's been done to him and when are the authorities responsible for that crime going to be held accountable. His guilt or innocence has become secondary. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-27-2007, 07:17 PM	#34
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Of course his guilt or innocence is secondary when the issue is how he is treated before his trial. At that point, you can't put guilt or innocence into the equation. Even after a trial and a guilty verdict, there are issues that are orthogonal to his guilt or innocence. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-27-2007, 07:25 PM	#35
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Who knows if he's a terrorist? He's never been tried. My statement refers to the fact that he's been treated so poorly and he wasn't even charged for several years. now he's finally agreed to a plea bargain and I don't doubt that it's just so that he can get out of the shithole he's been living in, so this does not prove his guilt. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-27-2007, 07:48 PM	#37
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Non sequitur. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-27-2007, 08:40 PM	#42
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Once again, he's not been proven guilty of any crime. Do you have so little faith in your judicial system that you'll make your own decision instead of waiting for the facts? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-27-2007, 06:54 PM	#33
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	A terrorist, secondary? Okee-dokee, you can have em'.

03-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#45
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Well maybe he will cash in after all. http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22 __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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