Hot takes on the Democratic frontrunners

Undertoad · 04-26-2019, 05:27 PM

About 12% of Bernie voters wound up voting for Trump last time. In a new Emerson College poll, over 20 percent of Bernie supporters are saying they would not vote for other Democratic candidates if the senator loses the primary.

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The poll also found that 21% of Sanders supporters said they would vote for Trump in the general election if Buttigieg won the primary, 26% said they would vote for Trump if Warren won the primary, 18% said they would vote for Trump if O’Rourke won the primary, and 17% said they would vote for Trump if Harris won the primary.

Bernie has a strong protectionist vibe, and has said Trump actually does not go far enough along NAFTA lines. Bernie is a nationalist who advocates for a strong US.

There is a reverse component here which is also interesting:

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Oddly, 5% of Sanders supporters said they would vote for Trump if Sanders won the primary.

These are Democratic Trump voters. It appears Democratic Trump voters are most likely to be Bernie voters in the Primary.

Flint · 04-26-2019, 06:13 PM

It's called "brand insistence" --when your customers only want YOUR brand of hotdogs. If the other brand of hot dogs is all that's available, the customers will either eat hamburgers, or just leave.

tw · 05-03-2019, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

These are Democratic Trump voters. It appears Democratic Trump voters are most likely to be Bernie voters in the Primary.

An irrelevant argument is 'liberal' verses 'conservative'. This game keeps extremists in line and emotionally focused on what they are ordered to believe.

Trump or Sanders supporters; neither are moderates. Actual contest is moderate verses extremist. Of course they see less difference between Trump and Sanders. Extremists are driven by (make decisions using) emotion.

henry quirk · 05-03-2019, 08:38 AM

I think the long-haul contest is between 'libertarianism' and 'communitarianism', but I'm just an emotion-driven extremist, so: what do I know...

Torrere · 08-15-2019, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

These are Democratic Trump voters. It appears Democratic Trump voters are most likely to be Bernie voters in the Primary.

One of the weirder predictors for Bernie support in the 2016 primary was counties that voted for non-Obama candidates in the 2012 primary. These are voters that have been voting for Republicans in general elections since Reagan, but remain registered Democrats. In the primaries, they file protest votes. I'd wager that a lot of the Bernie-Trump voters also voted for Clinton in 2008.

glatt · 08-15-2019, 02:18 PM

Just saw on the little TV on the elevator that Warren and Biden are in a virtual tie.

I predict Warren will get the nomination. It's early still, and odds are against my prediction, but I think she is the primary candidate to beat. Biden has the cash to do some damage, but I think he won't be successful.

I'm a Bernie supporter, and I loathe age discrimination, but I really wonder about his age. If elected, would he live out his term?

04-26-2019, 06:13 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	It's called "brand insistence" --when your customers only want YOUR brand of hotdogs. If the other brand of hot dogs is all that's available, the customers will either eat hamburgers, or just leave. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-03-2019, 08:38 AM	#4
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Actual contest is moderate verses extremist." I think the long-haul contest is between 'libertarianism' and 'communitarianism', but I'm just an emotion-driven extremist, so: what do I know...

08-15-2019, 02:18 PM	#6
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Just saw on the little TV on the elevator that Warren and Biden are in a virtual tie. I predict Warren will get the nomination. It's early still, and odds are against my prediction, but I think she is the primary candidate to beat. Biden has the cash to do some damage, but I think he won't be successful. I'm a Bernie supporter, and I loathe age discrimination, but I really wonder about his age. If elected, would he live out his term?

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