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[Griff]

Let’s assume I’m pro-automation. Let’s make me an automation utopian rather than dystopian. Get me from today to 2100 without blood in the streets from displaced blue collar workers. I don’t think retraining ever gets the job done. Could we instead have the machines pay us?

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

Get me from today to 2100 without blood in the streets from displaced blue collar workers.

You have assumed smarter means harder. How did a 14 year old kid learn how to program a computer in the early 1960s. People are much smarter than some would assume. More automation often means the blue collar worker needs less abilities.

We should ban all vending machines so that more people remain standing about in restaurants?

Ask a McDonald employee to make change without that cash register. Notice how automation even makes jobs possible for employees with less abilities.

But we know this is well proven in history. When automation replaces humans, then the economy always creates more jobs. It is only confusing to people who think in terms of Trump style soundbytes. Or who do not understand the difference between closed loop and open loop systems (ie economics).

That same open loop rhetoric also says tax cuts increase jobs. Reality. The resulting closed loop system results in job losses many years later. Closed loop systems also involve an ignored factor called time.

Soundbyte logic (using open loop reasoning) only sees a job lost today because of a box making machine installed today. And does not see the so many resulting new jobs so many years later.

Again, how to create less jobs. Replace those telco switching computers with operators. A resulting recession means less jobs. That has never changed.

[xoxoxoBruce]

For tw life must be exasperating having to live among only lesser souls.

[Griff]

He writes as if someone here suggested not embracing the new tech.

[tw]

Troglodyte - a person who fears automation because it somehow destroys jobs. The myth, for some strange reason, lives on.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

For tw life must be exasperating

Sorry that I used too many big words. I will try to do better.