Chilling

Griff · 01-15-2020, 08:34 AM

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...hey-story.html

Records: Connecticut congressional candidate Robert F. Hyde had U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under ‘physical surveillance'

“Mr. Hyde … sent a series of text messages suggesting that he had Ambassador Yovanovitch under physical surveillance in Kyiv and that ‘They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,’ ” according to a letter sent by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam B. Schiff.

Griff · 01-17-2020, 06:58 AM

https://apps.npr.org/documents/docum...ni-And-Ukraine

xoxoxoBruce · 01-17-2020, 01:57 PM

Business as usual, a slide starting with Reagan.

Luce · 01-18-2020, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Business as usual, a slide starting with Reagan.

You misspelled "Nixon". His Southern Strategy was the beginning of all of this.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-18-2020, 10:52 PM

You're right, 59 years ago today Ike said...

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As we peer into society’s future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

Griff · 01-23-2020, 03:11 PM

I don't believe Reagan and Bush 1-2 were anti-American. I believe they had different ideological visions for the country. Bush 2 most obviously fell for the neo-con nonsense. The current occupant's corruption is not ideological. Ideology is how he keeps his believers in line but his corruption is personal and against the interest of the United States.

Emphasis: I believe Reagan loved this country.

fargon · 01-23-2020, 03:19 PM

"Emphasis: I believe Reagan loved this country." Griff
And So do I. I did exceptionally well during the Reagan years.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-14-2020, 01:43 AM

Watch this man, he's stealing democracy...

xoxoxoBruce · 02-14-2020, 01:59 AM

Nixon's Southern Strategy was promoting racism, Reagan's strategy was pushing down the organization of the working men so robber barons could make a comeback in control of the government as well as commerce and industry.

Urbane Guerrilla · 02-23-2020, 04:41 PM

Mind you, the stock market is over 29000 regularly -- Wall Street's happy times are not confined to Wall Street alone. That's a spiral up, except among those with a superstitious objection to seeing it. Or who simply cannot do stocks or 401k's through an incapacity or an inanition.

Anti-wealth is anti-liberty, and hence suxxors moistly maximally. I don't do it.

And what's a Parscale, ironically?

Not so ironically, it is manifest, and blatantly so, that Donald J. Trump loves America much more than his so-snotty fanatic detractors do. They superstitiously object to him thinking like that. They disapprove of loving the free Republic. That leaves them susceptible to fascism and other Godwin's Law syndromes. Happily, I do not suffer from these. (I don't even enjoy them.)

Luce · 02-24-2020, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Not so ironically, it is manifest, and blatantly so, that Donald J. Trump loves America much more than his so-snotty fanatic detractors do.

Trump loves America in the same way John Dillinger loved banks.

Urbane Guerrilla · 02-24-2020, 04:21 PM

No.

People I distrust say so, though.

Could anyone make a believable case for, hmm, successfully grafting, grifting and looting about somebody whose net worth has dropped by over a billion while he's not tending his hotel and real estate business, roughly halving it? I don't think so.

Fanatic detractors are prejudiced, and the prejudiced are dullards. I'm the soul of unprejudiced. When you're Left, you can't be right. Or you would become non-Left. Which would free your mind.

Believe me, that's a prospect that's about as good as good sex. Lasts a while longer into the bargain. It beats the life of discontent you are living now.

Happy Monkey · 02-24-2020, 05:02 PM

Is there a believable case for his net worth ever being a billion, let alone two?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-25-2020, 01:16 AM

If the millions he got from Dad was in the bank he'd have a billion by now, just the taxes he didn't pay through fraud would add up to a hundred million. We in the Northeast have had a front row seat to this scumbag fucking people over in NY and NJ for a very long time. Just following the court cases is revolting.
He's the male Leona Helmsley.

Luce · 02-25-2020, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I'm the soul of unprejudiced. When you're Left, you can't be right.

This almost qualifies as Zen.

01-15-2020, 08:34 AM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Chilling https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...hey-story.html Records: Connecticut congressional candidate Robert F. Hyde had U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under ‘physical surveillance' “Mr. Hyde … sent a series of text messages suggesting that he had Ambassador Yovanovitch under physical surveillance in Kyiv and that ‘They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,’ ” according to a letter sent by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam B. Schiff. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-17-2020, 06:58 AM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	https://apps.npr.org/documents/docum...ni-And-Ukraine __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-17-2020, 01:57 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Business as usual, a slide starting with Reagan. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-23-2020, 03:11 PM	#6
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I don't believe Reagan and Bush 1-2 were anti-American. I believe they had different ideological visions for the country. Bush 2 most obviously fell for the neo-con nonsense. The current occupant's corruption is not ideological. Ideology is how he keeps his believers in line but his corruption is personal and against the interest of the United States. Emphasis: I believe Reagan loved this country. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis Last edited by Griff; 01-23-2020 at 03:12 PM. Reason: Reagan loved our country

01-23-2020, 03:19 PM	#7
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	"Emphasis: I believe Reagan loved this country." Griff And So do I. I did exceptionally well during the Reagan years. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

02-14-2020, 01:43 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Watch this man, he's stealing democracy... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-14-2020, 01:59 AM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nixon's Southern Strategy was promoting racism, Reagan's strategy was pushing down the organization of the working men so robber barons could make a comeback in control of the government as well as commerce and industry. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2020, 04:41 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Mind you, the stock market is over 29000 regularly -- Wall Street's happy times are not confined to Wall Street alone. That's a spiral up, except among those with a superstitious objection to seeing it. Or who simply cannot do stocks or 401k's through an incapacity or an inanition. Anti-wealth is anti-liberty, and hence suxxors moistly maximally. I don't do it. And what's a Parscale, ironically? Not so ironically, it is manifest, and blatantly so, that Donald J. Trump loves America much more than his so-snotty fanatic detractors do. They superstitiously object to him thinking like that. They disapprove of loving the free Republic. That leaves them susceptible to fascism and other Godwin's Law syndromes. Happily, I do not suffer from these. (I don't even enjoy them.) __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 02-23-2020 at 04:48 PM.

02-24-2020, 04:21 PM	#12
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	No. People I distrust say so, though. Could anyone make a believable case for, hmm, successfully grafting, grifting and looting about somebody whose net worth has dropped by over a billion while he's not tending his hotel and real estate business, roughly halving it? I don't think so. Fanatic detractors are prejudiced, and the prejudiced are dullards. I'm the soul of unprejudiced. When you're Left, you can't be right. Or you would become non-Left. Which would free your mind. Believe me, that's a prospect that's about as good as good sex. Lasts a while longer into the bargain. It beats the life of discontent you are living now. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 02-24-2020 at 04:26 PM.

02-24-2020, 05:02 PM	#13
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Is there a believable case for his net worth ever being a billion, let alone two? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

02-25-2020, 01:16 AM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If the millions he got from Dad was in the bank he'd have a billion by now, just the taxes he didn't pay through fraud would add up to a hundred million. We in the Northeast have had a front row seat to this scumbag fucking people over in NY and NJ for a very long time. Just following the court cases is revolting. He's the male Leona Helmsley. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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