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Old 03-03-2020, 01:55 PM   #1
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Maybe "center" isn't the right word.
The question is, "is the system, as it is, basically okay" or "do we need to change anything we're doing"?

Trump has succeeded at doing a whole new thing, by just saying, "I'm different!" People WANTED that.

The DNC response is to put things exactly the way they were before Trump.

But then, why did Trump get elected? If everyone thought "the system is basically okay" ??

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eta: how did Obama win? By promising "CHANGE." People WANTED that.
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:18 PM   #2
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Is there a different perspective than this?

"McGovern lost in 1972" --48 years ago?
tw seems to think so?
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The time of reformation is at hand. There is no longer a center to aim for. The battle is for how the parties will be defined, to see whether their new form will hold.
Absolutely, there is a great re-sorting. It can't hold where it is.
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Maybe "center" isn't the right word.
The question is, "is the system, as it is, basically okay" or "do we need to change anything we're doing"?

Trump has succeeded at doing a whole new thing, by just saying, "I'm different!" People WANTED that.

The DNC response is to put things exactly the way they were before Trump.

But then, why did Trump get elected? If everyone thought "the system is basically okay" ??

...


eta: how did Obama win? By promising "CHANGE." People WANTED that.
Yep. The DNC actively opposes the challenge of change because the system works for $ome.
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