Quick, everyone change positions.

[Griff]

https://news.yahoo.com/gavin-newsom-...ity&soc_trk=fb

John C. Calhoun, who used the theory of states’ rights to defend the institution of slavery, is not generally a philosophical lodestar for liberal Democrats such as Newsom. But if Republicans (or foreign friends) succeed in sabotaging democracy in November, Calhoun’s theory of nullification, which posited that states have the power to defy federal law, could be ripe for a comeback on the left coast. With the heirs of the Confederacy now reigning in Washington, turnabout might be very fair play.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Griff

https://news.yahoo.com/gavin-newsom-...ity&soc_trk=fb

John C. Calhoun, who used the theory of states’ rights . . .With the heirs of the Confederacy now reigning in Washington, turnabout might be very fair play.

No wonder a derangement syndrome is much mentioned in certain quarters. How preposterous is it a born and bred New Yorker is some heir to the Confederacy?

I don't believe this guff.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

No wonder a derangement syndrome is much mentioned in certain quarters. How preposterous is it a born and bred New Yorker is some heir to the Confederacy?

I don't believe this guff.

Actually Secession was a Northern idea originally. Check out The Hartford Convention. Quick, everyone change positions.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

I don't see a lot of secessionist traction there -- actual secessions being forty-five years into the future from 1814.

The New England states did not support the war. They feared a land invasion and refused to place their militias under federal control. The Hartford Convention resulted in a declaration calling on the Federal Government to protect New England and to supply financial aid to New England's badly battered trade economy.

Which doesn't sound like a secessionist idea for anybody. Note also the content in
connecticuthistory.org. New England's shipping industry had taken a hammering and they were depressed.

And by the date it was read into the Congressional Record, the War of 1812 had been over for two weeks with the Treaty of Ghent, and was moot.