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Old 04-29-2020, 07:26 AM   #1
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My father's a lukewarm supporter-in-denial. He's the type who 1.) can't admit he's been conned, and 2.) hates Hillary with the fiery passion of a thousand red-hot suns. Ever since the Clinton presidency, just absolutely hates her. He's particularly obsessed with the title of her first book, "It Takes a Village," which he sees as a promise of Venezuelan socialism that is as firm or firmer than Hitler's promises in "Mein Kampf," which he often compares it to.

He largely avoids talking about politics these days, which is how I know he knows in his heart that Trump is an indefensible disaster--never in my life have I not heard my father talk politics. The two themes he sticks with, when he does talk, are "I don't care about what he says, I only care about what he does," and "Hillary would have been worse."
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Old 04-29-2020, 07:50 AM   #2
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It sounds like this wouldn't have been discussed, but do you think your father will vote for a Trump re-election or will he stay home because he secretly knows Trump is horrible?

My SOB is better than the other team's SOB, so I'll vote for my SOB.
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Old 04-29-2020, 12:14 PM   #3
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He largely avoids talking about politics these days, which is how I know he knows in his heart that Trump is an indefensible disaster--never in my life have I not heard my father talk politics. The two themes he sticks with, when he does talk, are "I don't care about what he says, I only care about what he does," and "Hillary would have been worse."
how beautiful that your father has decided to abstain from something he was enthusiastic about, in order to have a better relationship with his daughter
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:03 PM   #4
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how beautiful that your father has decided to abstain from something he was enthusiastic about, in order to have a better relationship with his daughter
Ha! More like "in order to not lose a debate to his daughter, who has gotten much better at arguing than when she was a child."
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:52 PM   #5
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Ha! More like "in order to not lose a debate to his daughter, who has gotten much better at arguing than when she was a child."
were there no times that he won, after you improved in skill?
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:03 PM   #6
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Silly bunny, one does not win against clodfobble. The best you can hope for is she's called away by something more pressing.
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Old 04-29-2020, 06:21 PM   #7
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were there no times that he won, after you improved in skill?
Realistically he "wins" by dragging me into a political argument in the first place. My real improved skill is just politely nodding and ignoring absurdities.
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