A Libertarian Review of Fahrenheit 9/11

Beestie · 07-07-2004, 03:54 AM

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Radar · 07-07-2004, 08:41 AM

Bowling for Columbine most certainly advocates gun control. They took kids from the Columbine shooting to K-Mart headquarters to tell them he had their bullets in him as though it were their fault. As though they did something wrong by selling bullets. They harassed Charleton Heston, and acted like people having guns were a bad thing or that more guns = more crime which is ludicrous.

Kitsune · 07-07-2004, 09:17 AM

I agree with Radar and was confused by those aspects of the movie. I was so pleased by the first 3/4ths of it or so as they explored each of the usual blames for gun violence and found examples to show that those reasons were not really valid. Gun ownership was explored and it was pointed out that citizens of other countries own just as many guns and they are just as readily available, but this refuted reason was still used in the end to advocate gun restrictions. I don't understand why Moore did this.

Personally, I really do agree with the whole "false fear" culture detailed in the movie and I think because of it our country is a lot worse off in many more ways than the gun violence that is spawned by it.

juju · 07-07-2004, 11:49 AM

Good point, I hadn't thought of that.

The whole Charlton Heston thing was pretty crummy. Editing his speech even more so.

juju · 07-07-2004, 11:51 AM

Perhaps it still isn't advocating gun control. It could instead advocating bullet control and Charlton Heston control. :)

lookout123 · 07-07-2004, 12:20 PM

i've said it before and i'll say it again. michael moore is a masterful marketer. he doesn't exactly come off as balanced in any way, but he sure gets butts into the seats and $$$ into his pockets.

Troubleshooter · 07-07-2004, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

i've said it before and i'll say it again. michael moore is a masterful marketer. he doesn't exactly come off as balanced in any way, but he sure gets butts into the seats and $$$ into his pockets.

If only more people looked at it that way instead of believing him to be telling the Truth(tm).

07-07-2004, 03:54 AM	#1
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07-07-2004, 08:41 AM	#2
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Bowling for Columbine most certainly advocates gun control. They took kids from the Columbine shooting to K-Mart headquarters to tell them he had their bullets in him as though it were their fault. As though they did something wrong by selling bullets. They harassed Charleton Heston, and acted like people having guns were a bad thing or that more guns = more crime which is ludicrous. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

07-07-2004, 12:20 PM	#6
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i've said it before and i'll say it again. michael moore is a masterful marketer. he doesn't exactly come off as balanced in any way, but he sure gets butts into the seats and $$$ into his pockets. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-07-2004, 09:17 AM	#3
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	I agree with Radar and was confused by those aspects of the movie. I was so pleased by the first 3/4ths of it or so as they explored each of the usual blames for gun violence and found examples to show that those reasons were not really valid. Gun ownership was explored and it was pointed out that citizens of other countries own just as many guns and they are just as readily available, but this refuted reason was still used in the end to advocate gun restrictions. I don't understand why Moore did this. Personally, I really do agree with the whole "false fear" culture detailed in the movie and I think because of it our country is a lot worse off in many more ways than the gun violence that is spawned by it.

07-07-2004, 11:49 AM	#4
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Good point, I hadn't thought of that. The whole Charlton Heston thing was pretty crummy. Editing his speech even more so.

07-07-2004, 11:51 AM	#5
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Perhaps it still isn't advocating gun control. It could instead advocating bullet control and Charlton Heston control. :)

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