Massive failure causes data loss!! - Page 2

lumberjim · 07-17-2004, 12:34 AM

I didn't do it

Griff · 07-17-2004, 07:44 AM

*cough* um I hate to mention this after all the crap you just went through... I'm not seeing all the emoticons again... and you know how well I pick up on nonverbals anyway... Does it muck things up when I check in from other locations?

Undertoad · 07-17-2004, 08:07 AM

Are you in fact you hosing your referrer variable!

Griff · 07-17-2004, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Are you in fact you hosing your referrer variable!

Are you outsourcing your responses?

Undertoad · 07-17-2004, 08:16 AM

I can't help unless you WANT to be helped!

Griff · 07-17-2004, 08:19 AM

he he... I'll avoid logging on from the other locations bro. Or I could slangify the other...

Undertoad · 07-17-2004, 08:25 AM

The other locations have nothing to do with it really.

The system decides whether you are worthy to get the smilie by looking at a string that your browser sends along as a part of the HTTP protocol: the "Referrer". For example, the "Referrer" for all the images on this page are the page itself, showthread.php from cellar.org.

If your Referrer string doesn't say cellar.org, the system assumes that you are getting the smilies via some other site, and in some cases, doesn't send them along. 99.9% of the time, if a Referrer string doesn't contain cellar.org, the page requesting it is somewhere else on the net and is stealing them.

It's probable that you have set some hardass privacy setting to mess up the Referrer string, maybe even without realizing it. Some firewalls probably screw it up on purpose. But it's part of the protocol and therefore my judgement that this is broken on your end. Rudely breaking the protocol is not the solution.

I will need valid referrers from Cellar readers if I ever want to prevent image theft from the Cellar. This is not a minor inconvenience for me... it's an increasing problem.

Griff · 07-17-2004, 08:32 AM

I'll look and then get frustrated and then have Pete fix our privacy settings. Thanks man.

Undertoad · 07-17-2004, 08:36 AM

Let us know if you find a solution on your side so that everyone can benefit. There is a tiny chance it's your ISP causing the breakage and if that's the case I will try to work out how to fix it from my side.

wolf · 07-17-2004, 09:49 AM

Just add cellar.org to your list of trusted sites (where it should be anyway!!)

Griff · 07-17-2004, 09:51 AM

I shut off Norton IS, they're the problem. I'm gonna see if I can change a setting.

wolf · 07-17-2004, 09:57 AM

in Norton Internet Security ... go to Options >NIS. This will bring up a tabbed menu. Select the Web Content Tab. Click Add Site. add the cellar. Your problem is the default permission for "Information about visited sites" ... click "permit"

Click OK and you're done.

Griff · 07-17-2004, 10:17 AM

I think we're running a different version wolf. We did add cellar but it didn't fix the problem. I had to disable the privacy control to get it to work... It used to work before new cellar came on-line and I had cellar on trusted before but it wasn't there when I checked... shrug werks now. thanks back to the tour page...Lance won the stage

07-17-2004, 12:34 AM	#16
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I didn't do it __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

07-17-2004, 07:44 AM	#17
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	cough um I hate to mention this after all the crap you just went through... I'm not seeing all the emoticons again... and you know how well I pick up on nonverbals anyway... Does it muck things up when I check in from other locations? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-17-2004, 08:19 AM	#21
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	he he... I'll avoid logging on from the other locations bro. Or I could slangify the other... __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-17-2004, 08:32 AM	#23
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I'll look and then get frustrated and then have Pete fix our privacy settings. Thanks man. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-17-2004, 09:49 AM	#25
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Just add cellar.org to your list of trusted sites (where it should be anyway!!) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-17-2004, 08:07 AM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Are you in fact you hosing your referrer variable!

07-17-2004, 08:16 AM	#20
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I can't help unless you WANT to be helped!

07-17-2004, 08:25 AM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The other locations have nothing to do with it really. The system decides whether you are worthy to get the smilie by looking at a string that your browser sends along as a part of the HTTP protocol: the "Referrer". For example, the "Referrer" for all the images on this page are the page itself, showthread.php from cellar.org. If your Referrer string doesn't say cellar.org, the system assumes that you are getting the smilies via some other site, and in some cases, doesn't send them along. 99.9% of the time, if a Referrer string doesn't contain cellar.org, the page requesting it is somewhere else on the net and is stealing them. It's probable that you have set some hardass privacy setting to mess up the Referrer string, maybe even without realizing it. Some firewalls probably screw it up on purpose. But it's part of the protocol and therefore my judgement that this is broken on your end. Rudely breaking the protocol is not the solution. I will need valid referrers from Cellar readers if I ever want to prevent image theft from the Cellar. This is not a minor inconvenience for me... it's an increasing problem.

07-17-2004, 08:36 AM	#24
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Let us know if you find a solution on your side so that everyone can benefit. There is a tiny chance it's your ISP causing the breakage and if that's the case I will try to work out how to fix it from my side.

07-17-2004, 09:51 AM	#26
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I shut off Norton IS, they're the problem. I'm gonna see if I can change a setting. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-17-2004, 09:57 AM	#27
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	in Norton Internet Security ... go to Options >NIS. This will bring up a tabbed menu. Select the Web Content Tab. Click Add Site. add the cellar. Your problem is the default permission for "Information about visited sites" ... click "permit" Click OK and you're done. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-17-2004, 10:17 AM	#28
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I think we're running a different version wolf. We did add cellar but it didn't fix the problem. I had to disable the privacy control to get it to work... It used to work before new cellar came on-line and I had cellar on trusted before but it wasn't there when I checked... shrug werks now. thanks back to the tour page...Lance won the stage __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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