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Old 08-17-2004, 06:10 PM   #1
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So, since many of the people in this thread seem to agree that Bush and Kerry aren't that different (as do I), why didn't more people respond to my Libertarian Party thread?

That question was both a joke and a serious statement.

Also, I applaud everyone for drifting in this thread, that made me happy. Because, remember what sycamore said, "If a thread doesn't drift, then it's crap."
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:48 PM   #2
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So, since many of the people in this thread seem to agree that Bush and Kerry aren't that different (as do I), why didn't more people respond to my Libertarian Party thread?
1) Why not vote for Ralph Nader. It accomplishes the same thing.

2a) Returning to the original question and adding to what others have said. Many also accused Walter Cronkite of being a liberal even though an analysis by a conservative think tank concludes he was rather conservative. But Walter told the truth about VietNam when Paley finally let him do that famous news special. At report's end, Walter said what insiders had been saying all along and what history proved. We could send in the entire US military and we still could never win that war. It was this Walter Cronkite report that finally forced Johnson to concede the war was indeed lost. But for telling something that was contrary to a right wing politcal agenda, Walter was then labeled a liberal.

2b) Brit Hume was an ABC and Nightline correspondent for many years. Because ABC is also a responsible news bureau, then many speculated that Brit Hume was a liberal. Now that Brit is on Fox, did they change his brain or political affliation? It only demonstrates that there is no liberal or conservative on the mainstream (responsible) news services. There are the facts presented first no matter what the correspondent's political affliation may be.

3) Is there no difference between Kerry and George Jr? Would Kerry (or most any other politican for that matter) sit on his ass waiting for someone to tell him what to do while America was being attacked? Remember George Jr did not enter politics because he was good, knowledgeable, seasoned, business saavy, or experienced. He was literally carried into the presidency, it part, because he speaks a right wing religious agenda - which dominates the Republican party back rooms. He was selected and then indoctrinated by the Vulcans. George Jr can speak the right phrases that enthral conservative religious factions. Unlike Kerry, George Jr never really made hard decisions - even failing to drill a successful oil well.

No minimally responsible leader - even a school principal - would have sat in that school room without at least asking a few questions. But unlike most all other politicans and business leaders, the mental midget president just sat their knowing full well the country was under attack. He did nothing. He inspired no confidence. He asked not one question. He did not immediately phone the White House situation room to discover who was in charge - if anyone. He just sat there and waited. That makes George Jr as mentally deficient as any leader could be.

There is no politican so mentally reactive as to only sit there for seven minutes and wait; knowing full well the United States of America is under attack. And as we now know, the greatest weakness to America's 11 September response were inaction and indecision by the George Jr administration. Virtually the entire administration did nothing to deter any attacks. They did not one thing. They did not even authorize fighters to go 'weapons free'. Four more planes could have been coming and the administration had done nothing to stop any of them. Thank goodness we have the little poeple who stepped in while George Jr sat in that classroom doing nothing. My god man. This is the most damning part. Look at those press clips. Not once did he ever even ask a single question. No responsible politician would have done that. Virtually every politican would have been more responsible than George Jr. He did absolutely nothing. How could anyone say Kerry is that dispicable?
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Old 08-18-2004, 11:13 AM   #3
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3) Is there no difference between Kerry and George Jr? Would Kerry (or most any other politican for that matter) sit on his ass waiting for someone to tell him what to do while America was being attacked?
Let it go man, let it go.

The only difference in response between Bush and Kerry would have been that Kerry would have covered his ass better while getting to the phone for instructions.

They are both political puppets, and as long as the American voter remains in the dark about that we will end up with the same situation in pertuitum.
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Old 08-19-2004, 04:35 PM   #4
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Let it go man, let it go.

The only difference in response between Bush and Kerry would have been that Kerry would have covered his ass better while getting to the phone for instructions.
Any responsible politician would have done more than George Jr. Last thing he was told was that America was under attack. He just sat there for seven minutes. He did not even ask a single question for seven minutes. Even a College Student would not have been so pathetic. So America is under attack. There was nothing actionable - as Rice is so found of saying? Please name me one other president who would have just sat there - and never asked another question. Not even Nixon was that despicable.

I have been denying this for some years now. However I cannot ignore this fact any longer. George Jr does not make decisions. He is either told or manipulated as to what to decide by his political officers. Numerous people who instead come from where the work gets done have been suggesting this for some time now. George Jr was sitting there waiting for his people to tell him what to do. That is the most likely reason why he sat there for seven minutes just waiting. And this is the most damning part: not asking a single question for seven minutes. Name me another politician who would be so mentally deificent as to just sit there? I cannot think of any other than maybe Dan Quayle.

There is no way around this fact. He was told that America is under attack. He did nothing. He asked not one question. No wonder he just knew those aluminum tubes must have been for weapons of mass destruction. No wonder he let events get so out of hand that we almost had a shooting war with China over a silly spy plane. No wonder the Norwegian foreign minister immediately predicted that George Jr would subvert the Oslo Accords. He just sat there because he did not know what to do or what to ask. Damning exposure into how this mental midget president - god's choosen one - actually thinks. Even Nixon would not have just sat there. Even Nixon would have been asking questions.
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