Exit polls versus actual election results

Happy Monkey · 11-04-2004, 03:00 PM

Whether or not there was fraud on the E-voting machines, they need to be fraudproofed. Short of a whistleblower in the company, there's no way to detect whether fraud occurred, so it's probably not really worth the tinfoil hat label for the meager results you may get. But fraudproofing future elections is a goal that should in theory be able to get broad support.

glatt · 11-04-2004, 03:14 PM

There's no way to know if there was fraud with the electronic voting. I do know that I am less confident now than I ever have been that my vote is actually being counted. I would rather have paper. Optically scanned ballots, where you fill in the oval with a number two pencil, can be tallied quickly and re-visited if there are questions later.

iamthewalrus109 · 11-04-2004, 03:50 PM

Its really sad to think that some of the only things that came out of the 2000 election was provisional balloting and the destruction of the VNS. I remember Tauzin from Louisanna trying to get reform through, of course nothing happened. Of course there should never be federal control of election processes, but there needs to be a federally mandated system, possibly subsidized by the federal government that will trickle down to the states, county by county. Each County Clerk in the state should hold the county in compliance with these standards period. 2004 is over, now there needs to be reform by the likes of Ralph Nader and others to ensure a more cohesive voting system exists in this country.

-Walrus

11-04-2004, 03:00 PM	#1
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Whether or not there was fraud on the E-voting machines, they need to be fraudproofed. Short of a whistleblower in the company, there's no way to detect whether fraud occurred, so it's probably not really worth the tinfoil hat label for the meager results you may get. But fraudproofing future elections is a goal that should in theory be able to get broad support. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

11-04-2004, 03:50 PM	#3
iamthewalrus109 High Propagandist Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111	Comes down to federally mandated election standards Its really sad to think that some of the only things that came out of the 2000 election was provisional balloting and the destruction of the VNS. I remember Tauzin from Louisanna trying to get reform through, of course nothing happened. Of course there should never be federal control of election processes, but there needs to be a federally mandated system, possibly subsidized by the federal government that will trickle down to the states, county by county. Each County Clerk in the state should hold the county in compliance with these standards period. 2004 is over, now there needs to be reform by the likes of Ralph Nader and others to ensure a more cohesive voting system exists in this country. -Walrus

11-04-2004, 03:14 PM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	There's no way to know if there was fraud with the electronic voting. I do know that I am less confident now than I ever have been that my vote is actually being counted. I would rather have paper. Optically scanned ballots, where you fill in the oval with a number two pencil, can be tallied quickly and re-visited if there are questions later.

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