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02-21-2005, 08:35 PM | #16 | |
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I understand vegetarianism but I never got the vegan thing. I mean deciding never to eat chocolate again ever because it has milk fat in it seems awfully extreme. Don't all baby mammals consume milk? At what age does drinking milk become a bad idea?
I used to have a vegan roommate but I liked her approach. Rather than put down the stuff we ate, she would point out the benefits of what she ate. She even put a cookbook together and I still have it and use it from time to time. As far as heart trouble goes, I think sedentary lifestyles are more to blame for heart trouble than a diet with some animal fat in it. One thing I can say, tho, is that I've never met a dumb vegetarian/vegan. A lot of OC ones, but no dumb ones.
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It's my understanding that humans are the only ones that go so far out of their way to continue consuming milk.
I'd be curious as to where cats fall on that scale.
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02-21-2005, 10:18 PM | #21 |
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02-21-2005, 11:02 PM | #23 |
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I think the point of this tread was not to say that the vegan lifestyle was stupid, but vegans forcing that lifestyle on their children is unhealthy, i.e. stupid.
Let the kid decide if he or she wants to live that lifestyle when they are old enough to understand the benefit or consequence of what they eat. It's not like they're going to keel over from a coronary at age 5 or 6, right?
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Veganism doesn't do it for me: it's overly citified and an antisurvival behavior. Get in a situation where vegetable foods are not available but animal foods are, and you either ditch the veganism or starve, possibly to death. Not my idea of a sensible philosophy. Omnivory's the way that doesn't impede survival even in difficult circumstances.
That said, I like vegetarian recipes and dishes a lot better than professional-vegetarian philosophy -- and I particularly fondly remember the hippie sandwiches I used to get in Baltimore: a big slab of Muenster with sprouts and a slice of tomato and piece of lettuce between a couple slices of earnestly wholegrain bread. That was eatin'!
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02-22-2005, 08:31 AM | #27 | |
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Strip away the spin and the study basically says that malnutrition is bad for children, which isn't exactly news. It doesn't say that vegans are necessarily malnourished, only that it's simple to avoid this particular sort of malnourishment by eating meat. Again, not news. Not even to vegans. |
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I have a friend that was vegetarian for many years, then she moved on to the vegan diet... THEN the vegan raw diet (yeah, that means nothing cooked! Blah.). It lasted about 2 years and she began to look sickly. Thankfully, she realized that her body needed more and she slowly began eating milk products and now even eats fish and chicken every now and then. She looks and feels so much better.
My motto: Everything in moderation.
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to writing my paper on how a strict vegan diet causes irritability in women. (see, THAT was a slam). |
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