Fuck France(tm) again...

Troubleshooter · 02-22-2005, 03:18 PM

Google Book Effort Draws French Ire
By David Worthington, BetaNews
February 21, 2005, 8:37 PM

The National Library of France is not happy with Google's effort to scan and integrate millions of books into its Web search. Jean-Noel Jeanneney, President of the library, wrote in an editorial that he is concerned Google's initiative to digitalize volumes at five leading libraries will reflect a unipolar worldview dominated by the English language and American culture.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...Ire/1109036269

wolf · 02-23-2005, 01:21 AM

Le Boo Hoo ...

Billy · 02-23-2005, 02:57 AM

France always criticize the USA culture. I think you, Troubleshooter had a unipolar worldview if you are so angry for the news. You canot master others' thoughts and mouths, but accept the colorful world. Many Chinese people hate the Western often criticize the Chinese human right. We cannot seal their mouths. What we can do is to improve the Chinese human right and tell the real situation in China.
I think Google will scan other languages's book.

Troubleshooter · 02-23-2005, 07:53 AM

Oh I'm not really mad. They're not worth the effort if a really good mad-on. The response was something more like, "Fuck France! What's for lunch?" It's fun to deride the french, and easy too. I mean, what are they going to do about it?

Beestie · 02-23-2005, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

It's fun to deride the french, and easy too. I mean, what are they going to do about it?

Surrender?

Troubleshooter · 02-23-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beestie

Surrender?

Sweet...

russotto · 02-23-2005, 09:21 AM

So, let France start their own effort of digitizing volumes which reflect a French world view.

Of course, if they want anyone else to read them, they'll have to translate into English...

iamthewalrus109 · 02-23-2005, 09:52 AM

Although it sounds good, the google effort is a proprietary one and will be organized as such. The attack on Western virtues should address this issue. The project in France is based on learned principles and academics. The Google effort is indicactive of the hustle, bustle, lets get some good PR for our company type of deal, which in the end I can assure you will fall short of greatness. As a historian, librarian, and researcher I greet Google's effort with a suspicious eye. Seems like a few burnt out academics,and a whole lot of tech people will just start throwing up whatever won't be copywrited and call it a miracle of modern technology and go to town on a big PR campaign for this new "public" company Google. I rarely agree with the French, but in this case I don't think it's a Chirac vs. Bush type of angst, I think it stems from the fact that the people at the French library know that this effort will undermine actual academic efforts to reposit material for use. Google represents a fast food approach, and all should be wary of its credibility as it goes forward.

-Walrus

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2005, 09:03 PM

I suspect that the Google effort involves puting up anything they can get their hands on. I would prefer that to someone deciding what I should read and what I shouldn't, for my own good.

02-22-2005, 03:18 PM	#1
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Fuck France(tm) again... Google Book Effort Draws French Ire By David Worthington, BetaNews February 21, 2005, 8:37 PM The National Library of France is not happy with Google's effort to scan and integrate millions of books into its Web search. Jean-Noel Jeanneney, President of the library, wrote in an editorial that he is concerned Google's initiative to digitalize volumes at five leading libraries will reflect a unipolar worldview dominated by the English language and American culture. http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...Ire/1109036269 __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

02-23-2005, 01:21 AM	#2
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02-23-2005, 07:53 AM	#4
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Oh I'm not really mad. They're not worth the effort if a really good mad-on. The response was something more like, "Fuck France! What's for lunch?" It's fun to deride the french, and easy too. I mean, what are they going to do about it? __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

02-23-2005, 09:52 AM	#8
iamthewalrus109 High Propagandist Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111	Bottom line: Western efforts are based on propreitary response Although it sounds good, the google effort is a proprietary one and will be organized as such. The attack on Western virtues should address this issue. The project in France is based on learned principles and academics. The Google effort is indicactive of the hustle, bustle, lets get some good PR for our company type of deal, which in the end I can assure you will fall short of greatness. As a historian, librarian, and researcher I greet Google's effort with a suspicious eye. Seems like a few burnt out academics,and a whole lot of tech people will just start throwing up whatever won't be copywrited and call it a miracle of modern technology and go to town on a big PR campaign for this new "public" company Google. I rarely agree with the French, but in this case I don't think it's a Chirac vs. Bush type of angst, I think it stems from the fact that the people at the French library know that this effort will undermine actual academic efforts to reposit material for use. Google represents a fast food approach, and all should be wary of its credibility as it goes forward. -Walrus

02-23-2005, 09:03 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I suspect that the Google effort involves puting up anything they can get their hands on. I would prefer that to someone deciding what I should read and what I shouldn't, for my own good. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2005, 02:57 AM	#3
Billy Professor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,462	France always criticize the USA culture. I think you, Troubleshooter had a unipolar worldview if you are so angry for the news. You canot master others' thoughts and mouths, but accept the colorful world. Many Chinese people hate the Western often criticize the Chinese human right. We cannot seal their mouths. What we can do is to improve the Chinese human right and tell the real situation in China. I think Google will scan other languages's book.

02-23-2005, 09:21 AM	#7
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	So, let France start their own effort of digitizing volumes which reflect a French world view. Of course, if they want anyone else to read them, they'll have to translate into English...

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