Has our intelligence dropped to zero already?

BigV · 03-03-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I'd like to see the writing myself. 18 year olds are capable of lying, you know. Why was he writing a "story for English class" in his personal "journal?" And his own grandparents are the ones who found it and gave it to police, so either they don't know their grandson at all, or they know him better than we do.

What could you discern from reading it yourself? What would you look for? You can't incite to riot in a freakin personal journal, other people gotta hear/see it.

**FICTION ALERT** (This means you AG Gonsalez) If I wrote "Zombies will take over the White House" **End Alert**, does my mail automatically get forwarded to Gitmo?

Is he guilty of a f*cking thoughtcrime?!?! Look, I saw Minority Report, I read 1984, and I understand they're also works of fiction. Some folks seem to think it's real though.

God, it's sad, no, tragic to think that we have to PREEMPT every bad thing that might happen. All that Sysiphean task accomplishes is more worry and more jumping at shadows and more conformity and more innocent people persecuted out of fear.

I will not live in fear.

What does it matter that this side or that is responsible for the elimination of our civil liberties. I can hear it now: "I had to burn the Constitution in order to save it".

Lord, help us.

glatt · 03-03-2005, 03:08 PM

The grandparents, not the government, snooped in the diary. They were motivated by something. We don't know what motivated them, but it's possible they knew this kid well, and knew that he might pull a Columbine. They were worried enough by what they found in the diary to call the police on their own flesh and blood. Most grandparents wouldn't get their grandkids in trouble with the law unless they absolutely had to.

The police read what was in the diary and decided it was bad. The DA agreed. The boy is claiming he is innocent. Is that really a surprise? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This is why we have trials. The jury can read the journal, listen to the kid, hear from the english teacher, read what the law says, and make a decision.

You are making a decision after only listening to the kid.

03-03-2005, 03:08 PM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The grandparents, not the government, snooped in the diary. They were motivated by something. We don't know what motivated them, but it's possible they knew this kid well, and knew that he might pull a Columbine. They were worried enough by what they found in the diary to call the police on their own flesh and blood. Most grandparents wouldn't get their grandkids in trouble with the law unless they absolutely had to. The police read what was in the diary and decided it was bad. The DA agreed. The boy is claiming he is innocent. Is that really a surprise? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. This is why we have trials. The jury can read the journal, listen to the kid, hear from the english teacher, read what the law says, and make a decision. You are making a decision after only listening to the kid.

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