Terri Schiavo's Parents Seek Divorce on Her Behalf

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Originally Posted by Brett's Honey

I don't know if cremation was always his (their?) plan, but I can see why it may be the best way for it to finally be really the end of this 15 year ordeal for Michael Schaivo.

I heard a rumor at work that the Schindlers' lawyers are going to argue against cremation because the parents see resurrection as a "potential" future treatment.

[lookout123]

more likely it is because they are devout catholics (or at least they play them on tv). i think that catholics believe that the cremated will be left without a body when Christ returns and that would be a bad thing. i'm thinking that if Christ really is the Lord of all and everything in the Bible is true - He can probably get around the not having a body bit. IMO

[Brett's Honey]

(lookout123] i think that catholics believe that the cremated will be left without a body when Christ returns and that would be a bad thing.

[/quote]My husband and I were discussing that belief yesterday. My problem with that is that some people (World Trade Center victims for example) are left without a body due to circumstances beyond their control, pretty much cremated against their wishes. And I don't think God would hold that against them...

[Griff]

Originally Posted by lookout123

more likely it is because they are devout catholics (or at least they play them on tv). i think that catholics believe that the cremated will be left without a body when Christ returns and that would be a bad thing. i'm thinking that if Christ really is the Lord of all and everything in the Bible is true - He can probably get around the not having a body bit. IMO

I'm not going to question their devotion to Catholicism, but I will question their judgement letting the likes of Randal Terry turn their difficulties into his circus. The "Culture of Life" that JP2 originally addressed bears only a passing resemblance to what some American Christians have whittled it down to.

Being cremated does not violate Catholic dogma. Traditional Christian burial is strongly encouraged for, from what I gather, historical reasons. Early enemies of Christianity had been known to burn Christians bodies as a psychological attack against believers. According to Catholic teaching the destruction of the body does not impact resurrection.

Lately, the Pope may be pushing his argument too far, pressing for extraordinary means to support life. At some point, you just have to put your life in Gods hands. For me, I think that feeding tubes are pretty ordinary but that personal decision making is why we can't let the nutters like Randal Terry make the call for us.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

Being cremated does not violate Catholic dogma. Traditional Christian burial is strongly encouraged for, from what I gather, historical reasons. Early enemies of Christianity had been known to burn Christians bodies as a psychological attack against believers. According to Catholic teaching the destruction of the body does not impact resurrection.

Well, that is not what they told us - quite vehemently. We were told that if the body was not intact, then there would be no body to rise up to heaven after a second coming of Christ. There was to be no question about this even though some in the class had the nerve to ask.

Also a kidney transplant was a mortal sin as we were told in one kind of pronouncment from Rome. Somehow that is no longer a poltically correct sin.

Even back then, I was having trouble understanding how this could be a fair god. A kidney donated to save a life was a mortal sin? What happens to all those innocent civilians blown to bits by a bomb? They had no body to celebrate the second coming of Christ. How evil was this god?

Is one who is fictional then really evil? They called him doubting Thomas - an ideal we should all aspire to.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by tw

Well, that is not what they told us - quite vehemently.

I'm sorry to hear that, tw. I'm born and raised Catholic from descendants of Eastern Europe Catholic and I never heard anything like that. My mother (as old-world Catholic as they come) has made it clear that she wants her remains donated to science/medicine and then cremated.

Its sad how many people in positions of religious authority (Catholic and other Christian denominations) have utterly and completely fucked up generations of people by interpreting and "adding value" to Jesus' teachings instead of just passing them along.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Its sad how many people in positions of religious authority (Catholic and other Christian denominations) have utterly and completely fucked up generations of people by interpreting and "adding value" to Jesus' teachings instead of just passing them along.

amen