US Pledge of Allegiance Ruled Unconstitutional

Yelof · 06-27-2002, 04:35 AM

I'm not an American so it is not my call really and I didn't vote in the poll above, but I support all moves to further the separation of Church and State. America is further along this path then most countries, mostly by historical accident it seems to me, as I think the founding fathers may have wanted no Established Church like England had but they certainly didn't want an gnostically neutral State, like the current interruption is heading.

I had to go to a Jesuit school growing up, I didn't like it there, amongst my beefs was having to say the "Hail Mary" before each class and also having to go to Mass during school hours once a week. It is amazing what obscenities you can get away with saying aloud when your voice is being drowned out by the sound of 29 other people praying

But that experience has left me wary of any attempt to impose a cultural idea upon children at school that goes beyond say respect for human rights..that makes the Pledge of Allegiance, even without God seems suspect to me, the sight of US kids reciting it seems odd.

View Poll Results: Take "under God" out of the pledge?
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06-27-2002, 04:35 AM	#7
Yelof neither here nor there Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 179	I'm not an American so it is not my call really and I didn't vote in the poll above, but I support all moves to further the separation of Church and State. America is further along this path then most countries, mostly by historical accident it seems to me, as I think the founding fathers may have wanted no Established Church like England had but they certainly didn't want an gnostically neutral State, like the current interruption is heading. I had to go to a Jesuit school growing up, I didn't like it there, amongst my beefs was having to say the "Hail Mary" before each class and also having to go to Mass during school hours once a week. It is amazing what obscenities you can get away with saying aloud when your voice is being drowned out by the sound of 29 other people praying But that experience has left me wary of any attempt to impose a cultural idea upon children at school that goes beyond say respect for human rights..that makes the Pledge of Allegiance, even without God seems suspect to me, the sight of US kids reciting it seems odd.

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