Russ makes a fuss

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The war is not only quite legal (except to anti-Republicans of a fringey nature), it is by definition right: it is being fought by democracy against dictatorship. It is inherently impossible for this to be wrongful. It might be destructive, it might be expensive and push up the national debt, it might be widely lethal.

My bad - we're not actually at war, anyways, so I guess this point didn't matter. The president is simply involved in a very large scale police action that involves the US military and didn't need an actual declaration of war or anything like that. Nope -- we're perfectly legal here! Carry on!

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

So was World War Two.

1. Axis powers attack American soil by bombing a Hawaii Naval Base. US enters WWII to fight them.
2. A "spy" we're not even sure exists provides false information about Iraq WMDs that did not exist and were shown not to exist by UN inspectors again and again. US enters Iraq.

I don't understand your comparison, here.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Nor am I an isolationist, either -- it's unsustainable, and there's no going back to it in this day and age.

I'm not all about isolationism, either. I just know that the US getting its grubby little hands into every country in the world is a bad idea. From the small scale CIA "interventions" in Central America that have gone oh-so-well to the bigger issues we're dealing with these days, it is very clear to me as to why the US is getting involved and it has zero to do with the administration feeling the need to spread democracy. We would have swept into many, many other countries long ago if we felt we were the great savior of people in need of fair government and we would have taken care of North Korea had we truly felt threatened by WMD. Hey, not only do we know the dictatorship of North Korea has a developing nuclear program, they were even threatening us with it before the Iraq ordeal began.

Who did we elect to use our military might against?

No matter how much the Administration is rolls this one in sugar, we're not in Iraq to "spread democracy" and "save the people". I fail to see how a true Libertarian can support these actions.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

...the entire pack of icky socialists clogging the arteries of the Jackass Party ever will be until they kick the socialists out and themselves embrace libertarianism.

I'd like to see the Jackass party at least grow a pair and stand up to what the administration has done (wiretapping, PATRIOT act, etc), but it seems they can't even stand on their own feet or actually express any solid goals at this point.