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Old 08-26-2006, 09:34 PM   #1
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Nobody with half a brain is going to dismiss all reports and photographs, because of those faked and photoshopped ones, but it gives us a better picture of which news sources are more or less trustworthy.
Those fakes and photoshopped pictures only tell us that propagandists are still alive and doing well. Meanwhile, UT denies that Israelis attacked 90% of innocent Lebanese. And that is the big picture. Why did Olmert's government think for one minute that it would accomplish something useful? A decision so flawed that it might mean an end of Olmert's government and the return of Likud. That is the big picture. Photoshopped pictures? An interesting sidebar and not relevant to what and why Lebanon (ie Beirut Airport) was attacked by Israel. That is the big picture. What Israel did to Lebanon, and questions that ask why.
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:21 PM   #2
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Those fakes and photoshopped pictures only tell us that propagandists are still alive and doing well. Meanwhile, UT denies that Israelis attacked 90% of innocent Lebanese. And that is the big picture. ~snip
If that's your big picture, your camera is too small. Either open your aperture or stand further back because there's a hell of a lot more actors in the play, than Israel and Hezbollah doing their dance, center stage.

You, yourself, said The White House ordered Israel to attack. We know Iran and Syria are part of the picture and probably many more we don't know for sure.

Everyone in the World has a stake in the Middle East turmoil.... some of them choose to drive that stake into the flesh of whomever they perceive as being against their own interests.
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:35 PM   #3
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If that's your big picture, your camera is too small. Either open your aperture or stand further back because there's a hell of a lot more actors in the play, than Israel and Hezbollah doing their dance, center stage.

You, yourself, said The White House ordered Israel to attack. We know Iran and Syria are part of the picture and probably many more we don't know for sure.

Everyone in the World has a stake in the Middle East turmoil.... some of them choose to drive that stake into the flesh of whomever they perceive as being against their own interests.
I did not say America ordered the attack. But Israel needed (or at least desired) American permission to conduct the seventh invasion of Lebanon. American support would be essential to running interference in the UN and elsewhere. But even the US is but a sidebar to the big picture.

Syria and Iran are about as relevant to the Israeli Hezbollah conflict as the US was to the IRA / UK war and "Bloody Sunday". This latest conflict was a battle between Hezbollah - a militia created to drive Israel out of Lebanon - and Israel. Israel, for confused and mysterious reasons tried to drag the Lebanon Army into the conflict by attacking all of Lebanon.

Propagandists have spun myths of Syria and Iran pulling strings on a puppet called Hezbollah. Nonsense. Total nonsense. Valid only if the US sponsored IRA terrorism in the UK. Again, Syria and Iran exist only in propaganda to divert attention away from a big picture. The big picture is Hezbollah and Israel where the latter tried to drag others into a quagmire.

You are letting propaganda keep you from the complex issue. What was Israel doing attacking all of Lebanon with airplanes when their problem was only in 20 miles south of the Latani river? Why did Israel violate good military doctrine and not send in ground troops for so long? Those questions are complex. Peripheral issues such as Syria, Iran, etc are nonsense only promoted by propagandists who are alive, well, and very active.
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:50 PM   #4
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I did not say America ordered the attack.
You're a lying motherfucker.
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Old 08-27-2006, 02:15 PM   #5
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You're a lying motherfucker.
Your right. I said you were using four letter words. Twelve letter words just don't qualify as an accurate statement. I erred by a factor of three. Seek numerical facts.

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