Club hatin'

[Elspode]

Unfortunately, in current society, only white Protestant males are capable of discrimination. Everyone else is a victim.

[bluecuracao]

I don't know what the deal is with Curves, but one doesn't have to actually be Black to be eligible for NAACP membership, I don't think. That might've been the problem your school had with the club--eligibility based on ethnic background. Though it doesn't sound like they were very clear about it, and overreacted instead.

Incidentally, my college has a school-sanctioned German Club--but you don't have to be German to join.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

I don't know what the deal is with Curves....

Something everybody should know about Curves: the owner and founder is the most intensely right-wing radical that a woman would ever hope not to meet. The money that women pay Curves goes to sponsor abortion clinic shutdowns, religious right programming, the defeat of ERA legislation, and the election of ultra-conservative candidates. This person actually has a Texas ranch next to George Bush! His greatest inspiration is The 700 Club. He talks like a televangelist and spends like one too. The person who gets the money you pay to Curves uses it for the REPRESSION of women and the elimination of their hard-earned rights in today's society. Boycott Curves!!!

[LabRat]

Originally Posted by Tonchi

Something everybody should know about Curves: the owner and founder is the most intensely right-wing radical that a woman would ever hope not to meet...~snip~ Boycott Curves!!!

Any links would be appreciated. My sister in laws family owns several in the Wisconsin area.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by LabRat

Any links would be appreciated. My sister in laws family owns several in the Wisconsin area.

I first heard about this hidden agenda by reading the Ethics Questions column in my local paper. Since I was looking for a health club to join I researched it, and discovered it was even worse than I thought.

http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/in...in_080403.aspx

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/arc...es/02local.htm

http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/curves.asp

Excerpt from the above link: The statements made by Carroll in those three short paragraphs about Gary Heavin, the founder and CEO of Curves, hold water for the most part. Heavin (pronounced "Haven"), is a born-again Christian who is strongly pro-life and, according to an article on Operation Save America's web site (a pro-life group of a more radical orientation than Operation Rescue, and one that asserts there is a connection between abortion and increased risk of breast cancer), is one of their supporters:

We then contacted Mr. Gary Heavin, Founder and CEO of Curves International. Mr. Heavin is a wealthy man who is a committed Pro-life Christian. He is the premier customer of the bank that sponsors Komen. He graciously returned our phone call and promised to use his influence to convince the bank to give some of the funding to Carenet, so they could take care of the women, instead of Planned Parenthood.

Several months passed and, lo and behold, on Tuesday, September 23rd, in the year of our Lord 2003, Carenet, our local CPC, held their annual banquet. It was the most attended, and as far as I was concerned, the best one to date. At the end, a major announcement and press statement was issued for Central Texas. Gary Heavin made a five million dollar grant to Family Practice, Carenet, and McCap. These groups and ministries would receive one million dollars a year for the next five years.


You can find a lot more by googling.

I notice in a previous post that the supporters of Curves' founder are trying to distance themselves from the embarrassing publicity by using the legal ploy "It is not the corporation 'Curves' which does this stuff...." In lawyerese that means that even if all of the money which goes to the founder as his cut is used for radical evangelistic-types of organizations and causes, you can't accuse Curves-the-corporation of doing the same. That is totally blowing smoke, and they are getting away with it because papers like the SF Chronicle do not want to go to court with them.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

I don't know what the deal is with Curves, but one doesn't have to actually be Black to be eligible for NAACP membership, I don't think.

They get a lot of their funding from guilty white liberals.

Consider this, when was the last time the United Negro College Fund gave money to a white kid?

Incidentally, my college has a school-sanctioned German Club--but you don't have to be German to join.

German Language, not ethnicity, I'll bet.

[Elspode]

Unfortunately, in current society, only white Protestant males are capable of discrimination. Everyone else is a victim.

I hope you are being sarcastic.

I am merely stating what the general view in society is. Think about it...what is the success rate for so-called reverse discrimination cases? There's no doubt that it exists, but society doesn't acknowledge it. You're white, you're male, so you're the problem. Most of the rest of society is pretty comfortable with that, I think.

As Wolf notes, when was the last time the UNCF gave a white kid college money? Never. So it is discriminatory. However, no one is going to tell the UNCF they are discriminatory, because, in this country, at this time, the accepted direction of discrimination is *from* white people, mostly male, *to* everyone else. This perception then makes any action on the part of the allegedly downtrodden (at least, to behave in any way they want short of violence) justified, and therefore allowable.

I'm sure that there are rare exceptions to this generalization, but they are so rare that none come immediately to mind.