WHAT GROUP ANNOYS YOU THE MOST ?

[mrnoodle]

Nao: observe.

Originally Posted by Brianna

Ok, Ok--in the interest of NOT offending the gods of Right, Good and Common Sense (the ones noodle knows intimately)

Hmm. Not quite an ad hominem attack, but definitely setting the stage for confrontation. How shall I respond?

A) fuck you
B) mea culpa, you're so right, I take it all back, whatever it was.
C) skip this part and go on to the actual point of the argument (hoping that one will appear)

A is the choice of kindergarteners. No point to it, other than satisfying the base urge to "get back" at someone who's just thrown a rock at you.

B is what they want you to say, but you won't be believed if you say it, anyway. Will probably achieve no more than A, and would be a lie.

C is the choice of the survival-minded conservative.

let me say this: Feel free to imagine rape as the logical conclusion to your own definition of provocative clothing.

Just don't sit in any jury.

As often happens, the argument has been twisted to fit a paradigm that is no longer accurate. You know you didn't say this, they know you didn't say this. But now you can't continue to make your original argument, because you have to defend yourself against the new allegation -- "You are pro-rape". You thought you said, "It's not really smart to walk around with your tits out", but you have now been informed that what you actually said was, "Rapists have the right to victimize women with their tits out."

Your choices:

A) repeat yourself ad nauseum until one of you gets bored and leaves
B) enter a sexual predator rehabilitation facility, because you now know that you are a rapist at heart
C) do nothing; let them "win" and just be content in the knowledge that they're being deliberately obtuse, and to their own detriment.

I suppose any of the choices will work, depending on your level of commitment and spare time.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by mrnoodle

... But now you can't continue to make your original argument, because you have to defend yourself against the new allegation -- "You are pro-rape". You thought you said, "It's not really smart to walk around with your tits out", but you have now been informed that what you actually said was, "Rapists have the right to victimize women with their tits out."

Nao didn't say, "It's not really smart..." - that has been said by other posters on other threads and I certainly didn't pick them up on it. Nao said that (to paraphrase) women who have their tits out is asking for rape.

I don't need to exaggerate that by claiming he said rapists were right, or had the right or whatever. I find that hard enough to swallow exactly as it was written.

I don't think this is anything to do with left wing, right wing or a perceived liberal bias on my part. I don't even think it's because I'm a woman, although I concede it may be.