Do we make too much of a past President death? - Page 2

Phil · 01-01-2007, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

He was as genuinely humble a man, as a politician can be. The private services last week are as far as he wished to be honored. The whole dog & pony show in Washington, is about tradition and for the benefit of the office, not for Jerry Ford.

Cost? Who knows, probably enough to finance the invasion of a smallish nation...maybe a Caribbean island.

I never forgave him for pardoning Nixon. I watched the political pundits, that were in Washington at the time, on TV this morning. They seem to agree, it looked like a deal, but wasn't. Guess it's like cops not ticketing cops....don't break the tradition because you might be next.

That said, it galls me that Nixon walked away scot free. Disgrace? BFD! The son of a bitch lived in palatial splendor with the best of everything, at my expense, when he should have been in jail.

Yes Virginia, he was a crook!

thank you.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-01-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

You ask me, the "I can't forgive him for pardoning Nixon" people are too damn hungry for blood, and this does not do them credit. It's partisan, and it's overdone.

It only appears partisan to party line drones.
Real Americans would punish a tyrant that brings the country to the brink of destruction.... like hanging on New years Eve.

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While it cost him a second term -- that, and general disgust in the electorate for the behavior of all the inside-the-Beltway set because of Watergate, which was what really let Carter take the election -- it did put the whole nation in that's-over, move-on mode, which was a distinct improvement over the alternative the vengeance-takers call out for.

That's-over, move-on mode? Bullshit. The damage Nixon did to this country is mostly irreparable, ten times more than the end of Camelot in Dallas, that many refer to as the end of good times.

Nixon created a riff, distrust, antagonism, between the government and the people, that has developed into mutual disrespect. That opened the door for Haliburton, Trial Lawyers Assoc, big oil, big drugs, etc to blatantly take control.

No more under the table money for favors. Now it's on the table, big bucks, buy a politician, because the corporates and politicians don't care about the voter anymore. They know there's only a 30% chance he'll vote at all. Even if he does vote, they don't have to count it because they control the voting system.

And the response from John Q Public?.... I'm not surprised, says John, forgetting, the fact that he's grown to expect bad behavior by the politicians doesn't make it any less wrong.
But in defense of John Q, he feels helpless and alone in the face of government and their puppet masters.
Why? Because of Richard M Nixon, may he burn in hell.

ferret88 · 01-02-2007, 05:14 PM

ABSO-freakin!-LUTELY we make too much of a big deal about the passing of a former President (or for that matter, the passing of a celebrity.)

Death is a fact of life and not so much of a surprise as one gets up in the years.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-03-2007, 05:46 PM

How about if we set a dollar figure when they leave office, say $1 million. Then deduct, say $50,000 each year until the die, and that's the max to be spent for the funeral and pomp.

Clodfobble · 01-03-2007, 09:12 PM

And the initial dollar figure could be different for each President, based on an average of their approval ratings over the course of their term.

Pie · 01-03-2007, 09:47 PM

Hmmmm... Dubya would have had to die a decade ago.

Shawnee123 · 01-04-2007, 12:06 PM

I found most of the presidential hoo-hah to be touching.

However, enough is enough. For the first time in forever, I took a day off and did NOTHING. I only get one TV channel, and was watching Ellen. She was right at this part with funny videos and all of a sudden we had to go to CBS News Special Report: The Death of a President.

Out loud and to no one but my plant I said "For God's sake, he's dead already. WE GET IT."

yesman065 · 01-06-2007, 09:19 AM

Thats why I rarely watch "the big three." Their programming is primarily full of mindless crap.

wolf · 01-06-2007, 12:04 PM

My mother watched all of the Ford coverage, but also the 'fill' ... coverage of past presidential funerals on C-SPAN.

Should I be worried?

01-03-2007, 05:46 PM	#19
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	How about if we set a dollar figure when they leave office, say $1 million. Then deduct, say $50,000 each year until the die, and that's the max to be spent for the funeral and pomp. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-03-2007, 09:47 PM	#21
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Hmmmm... Dubya would have had to die a decade ago. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

01-04-2007, 12:06 PM	#22
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I found most of the presidential hoo-hah to be touching. However, enough is enough. For the first time in forever, I took a day off and did NOTHING. I only get one TV channel, and was watching Ellen. She was right at this part with funny videos and all of a sudden we had to go to CBS News Special Report: The Death of a President. Out loud and to no one but my plant I said "For God's sake, he's dead already. WE GET IT." __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-06-2007, 12:04 PM	#24
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	My mother watched all of the Ford coverage, but also the 'fill' ... coverage of past presidential funerals on C-SPAN. Should I be worried? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-02-2007, 05:14 PM	#18
ferret88 (This space left intentionally UN-blank.) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 604	ABSO-freakin!-LUTELY we make too much of a big deal about the passing of a former President (or for that matter, the passing of a celebrity.) Death is a fact of life and not so much of a surprise as one gets up in the years.

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Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	And the initial dollar figure could be different for each President, based on an average of their approval ratings over the course of their term.

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yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Thats why I rarely watch "the big three." Their programming is primarily full of mindless crap.

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