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[Elspode]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

there you go treating women(assumed here ) like objects.

is she aware of your machinations?

Lord, I hope so...if not, then I might as well become a monk now and save a lot of driving. No, it seems that the object of my intentions has some personal issues at present, and so, while apparently eager, is not quite prepared psychologically to consent to my advances.

Like I said...I'm pathetic. And I am extremely not good at objectifying women. In fact, I may be the worst at that in all of male history.