Those Bad Ol' Iraqis?

[bluesdave]

Originally Posted by tw

There is no reason to believe any war with Iran is necessary. Cooperation with Iran's government has repeatedly demonstrated they do not want war and they do not want instability on their borders.

I do not disagree with the principle of co-operation, but with Iran (as with Pakistan and Syria), it is a dangerous path.

Iranian supported insurgency in Iraq is as real as George Jr administration honesty. Al Qaeda in Iraq? At what point do we ignore that myth from George Jr? That Al Qaeda is also believed by those who have respect for Cheney. Al Qaeda in Iraq is mostly a George Jr lie. This Iranian supported insurgency is a myth from the same liars. Iranian supported insurgency is completely contrary to what the Iran nation wants and needs. But it sure is profitable for mafia types.

Nevertheless, Iran is supporting Shiite insurgents in Iraq. I am not supporting GWB, but the facts are undeniable. Coincidently tonight on one of our news broadcasts, they covered a UN summit which is discussing/debating the problems in Iraq, and both Iran and Syria are mentioned frequently. Do you say that the UN is wrong? The same group that has often criticised US policy, and has been pushing for a peaceful solution for years.

So ask yourself where all those American provided $100 bills - tons of pallets of $100 bill - where do you think they went? Remember Vietnam: who was large supplier of the Viet Cong? Americans.

I could teach you about Vietnam, tw. I studied Vietnamese history even while we were still dropping bombs on them. Ho Chi Minh was a long time supporter of the US, and was shocked that the US would not support his dream of driving out the European imperialists (the French), because his forces had rescued hundreds of American troops during WW2. He thought that the US was a friend, not realising that his communist leanings would mark him as an enemy to the extreme right wing elements of the US government. He was desperate for help, and communist China and the USSR (but mainly China), were the only countries willing to help.

BTW, I escaped being conscripted and sent to Vietnam by the skin of my teeth, so lecturing me on Vietnam will get you nowhere.

Iran is far from a threat, but can be as long as we keep hyping George Jr lies. What makes Iran any danger? That 2002 'axis of evil' speech from George Jr.

Nup. Whether it was caused by ideological differences, or direct action, Iran hates America, and Americans to the bone. Their nuclear programme at this time is a joke (North Korea even more so), but Iran does supply conventional weapons and money to insurgents in Iraq and Palestine.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I wonder if they recorded the serial numbers on that 363 tons of $100 bills? I would be interesting to see where they end up.

[kerosene]

www.wheresgeorge.com might tell you

[xoxoxoBruce]

Is there a where's Ben dot com?

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I wonder if they recorded the serial numbers on that 363 tons of $100 bills? I would be interesting to see where they end up.

Even before "Mission Accomplished" began, George Jr had spread so many $100 bills in northern Iraq that a cup of coffee sold for $100. Yes, that is how much money America has spread throughout Iraq with no accounting.

Only later did Americans distribute money by pallets - not by backpacks. But then Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter".

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

Even before "Mission Accomplished" began, George Jr had spread so many $100 bills in northern Iraq that a cup of coffee sold for $100. Yes, that is how much money America has spread throughout Iraq with no accounting.

Only later did Americans distribute money by pallets - not by backpacks. But then Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter".

Wasn't the 363 tons of cash, Iraq's money that was being held under the pre-war UN sanctions?

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Wasn't the 363 tons of cash, Iraq's money that was being held under the pre-war UN sanctions?

So we raided their checking account, then threw $100 bills from the rooftop - and call that "returning their money"?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Don't be silly, the rooftops aren't safe. Just drop it from choppers........ like turkeys.

[Griff]

WKRP

[tw]

Originally Posted by bluesdave

Nevertheless, Iran is supporting Shiite insurgents in Iraq. I am not supporting GWB, but the facts are undeniable. ...

Nup. Whether it was caused by ideological differences, or direct action, Iran hates America, and Americans to the bone. Their nuclear programme at this time is a joke (North Korea even more so), but Iran does supply conventional weapons and money to insurgents in Iraq and Palestine.

Then these facts are also undeniable. The US was intentionally supporting the IRA in Britain. You cannot have it both ways. The US support for the IRA was exactly same as Iran's support is for Iraqi insurgents. Exactly. What you call Iran support for insurgents is exactly the same support that the US provided the IRA to bomb British citizens.

Where is this reality denied? Where people who hate George Jr also believe his lies.

Your post only makes sense if you assume American and Iranian criminal elements are also called the American and Iranian governments. Again, you have painted all Americans and all Iranians with a common brush. Even this mythical hate of America by all Iranians - only possible when thinking monolithically. You have now said America's government supported the IRA and that Iran's government supports all Iraqi insurgents. That is your monolithic conclusion.

Nothing is monolithic. Or do you claim the Iranian government and US government both supported terrorism? Why is the US mafia a same entity as the United States government? Clearly, US could not supply the IRA without American government cooperation. Therefore the US government financed and armed the IRA. This is exactly what you have posted about Iran.

Iran is only a great threat where George Jr rhetoric is promoted. All Americans who hate George Jr can still fall for his lies. After all, we did not impeach George Jr for one good reason. He is such as good liar that even his enemies believe what he says. How is Iranian hatred of America - expressed just like it was in Vietnam - proof that all Iranians hate Americans? Notice how the Vietnamese so hated Americans as to not get enough of Clinton. Since those Vietnamese proclaimed the same hate of America, then they would swarm to meet Americans?

Iran hates America and Americans to the bone. Only the brainwashed could say that. George Jr is such as good spinner of propaganda that he even got you to believe it - in direct contradiction to what international reporters find in the streets of Tehran. Eliminate that one lie and Iran is no big threat. Iran is a little threat. Pakistan is reams more a threat once we eliminate the hate – promoted by George Jr and Limbaugh lies – that Iranians hate Americans to the bone. Where is the 'hate' of American greater? In Pakistan.

Where is the hatred of America among the intelligent? Even among America's closest allies, the majority hate one thing American - the George Jr administration. They can also hate Americans for reelecting the scumbag. Eliminate George Jr and his Limbaugh liars - then we only have Pakistan to worry about - the big threat that makes Iran microscopic by comparision.