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Old 03-27-2007, 10:23 PM   #1
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In many jurisdictions, employers are required to have SS and other tax information for employees. Phony numbers are necessary to get a job and pay withholding tax. The illegal immigrant never gets that withholding back.

We even had the scandal of undocumented nanny's. Employers who don't withhold money from their employees can be prosecuted which is why government makes so much more money on illegal immigrant workers.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:39 PM   #2
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In many jurisdictions, employers are required to have SS and other tax information for employees. Phony numbers are necessary to get a job and pay withholding tax. The illegal immigrant never gets that withholding back.
Poor fellas.

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Old 03-27-2007, 11:23 PM   #3
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Poor fellas.
Which is why we must double the numbers of illegal immigrants. Oh. There's 2 million American created refugees. Good. More illegal immigrants. Deficiet solved.
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Which is why we must double the numbers of illegal immigrants.
Can we eat them for food?
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:44 AM   #5
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WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 14 MILLION, tw?
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:38 AM   #6
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WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 14 MILLION, tw?
He stated he wants it to be 28 million. Maybe he is illegal or hires them for his business. It is cheaper for the business to do so. A huge savings on anyones bottom line.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:25 PM   #7
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WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 14 MILLION, tw?
The 1.8 simply demonstrate a similar problem that all 28 million will have because too many of us fear rather than act like Americans.

One in three Silicon Valley companies is founded by Indian and Chinese immigrants. What is their largest problem? Why are so many moving operations out of America where possible? America so hates all immigrants that these companies cannot even obtain correct forms to save their people from immigration agents. Remember, it is the immigrants (legal and illegal) that are both some of America's most productive workers AND the source of most future productive workers. So what do we do now that we promote hate and fear? We even drive out of America the high tech standards conferences, research, etc simply because less productive 'citizens' and an equally dumb president would promote myths and fear.

Problem is not the immigrants - legal and illegal - that so many citizens want to drive out (intentionally or by ignorance). Problem is the citizens so fearful and so full of myths (ie they have come for the welfare) as to undermine America's future.

How to solve America's immigrant problem? Get rid of silly restrictions and make them legal. But then government will have to pay tax refunds. Better to promote hate.

What is a more common reason for immigrants who leave America voluntarily? America is too hard. America demands too much work. The immigrants that leave go back to countries where life is easier. But again, those who *know* using myths will completely ignore this reality.

The illegal immigrant problem is really hate promoted by extremist wings of political parties. As was demonstrated in one mid west state, when illegal immigrants were driven out, that entire part of the state then went into recession. Finally the residents demanded Immigration agents leave – so they could save their economy - rehire illegal immigrants. That history has also been repeated in Europe. Realities that those who promote hate and fear also forget to learn.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:15 PM   #8
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28 million, day-am. Thats one hell of a social services bill. I wonder how many are on welfare? Probably about the same proportion as the general population. Medical services are really expensive, though..... just for the kids born here that are legal.
Hey, that's an idea...tell 'em when they are caught they will be deported and banned forever, but were keeping the kids for farm labor. heh, heh, heh.
No I'm not serious, but I'll bet I raised some hackles, right Blue?

Yeah, I've heard the mid-western state thing before, but never seen any evidence it's not an old wives tale. You know, it wouldn't hurt to have a peer reviewed study proving there were no factors other than rounding up the criminals, had any effect?
Bet you haven't either.
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